Conniston - who is going? [Archive]

Jon Fuller

08-10-2005, 06:36 AM

If I can establish that non race boat entries are being accepted and it's not just open to National' or World record attempts (which is what I understood to be the case) I'd like to go.

verytricky

08-10-2005, 08:11 AM

If you read really really carefully it appears as if you can - BUT you need to buy a 'basic' licence....

roofer

08-10-2005, 08:46 AM

It appears anyone can run, £75 in advance or £100 on the day per 2 runs, additional runs are £10, lauching fee is also payable but no registration fee.

Jon Fuller

08-10-2005, 09:39 AM

do you know if there's a crane?

roofer

08-10-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by Jon Fuller
do you know if there's a crane?

Handbook states boats requiring cranes must make there own arrangements.

Jon Fuller

09-10-2005, 02:55 PM

OK, thanks

roofer

09-10-2005, 03:03 PM

You going jon ? you dont need a crane, hutchy launches his 32 off the slip and his mate launches a 37 tomahawk off same slip.

Jon Fuller

09-10-2005, 03:09 PM

I might do, but I'm not all that keen to launch mine from the trailer, or to be more precise, I aint too keen on recovering it with the trailer, as the trailer doesn't really fit too well, and I'm megga fussy about the bottom of me boat.

we'll see. does anyone have contact details for whoever's running the event?

roofer

09-10-2005, 03:14 PM

Jim noone 07775 838025

Jon Fuller

09-10-2005, 03:27 PM

Ah, right, does his missus still run the control during speed week then?

Techteam

09-10-2005, 03:34 PM

Advance regs state no entries for any category not recognised by the RYA and UIM. Best speak to Jim, he and Alison are no longer an item but remain friends

roofer

09-10-2005, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Techteam
Advance regs state no entries for any category not recognised by the RYA and UIM.

Not according to my copy of advance regs and entry form.

Here's a list of officials

Techteam

09-10-2005, 03:55 PM

Ahh, I think you misunderstand. Alison is no longer Jim missus. She is still an Official.

roofer

09-10-2005, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Techteam
Ahh, I think you misunderstand. Alison is no longer Jim missus. She is still an Official.
I think you misunderstand, i was refering to performance attemps under section l.

Techteam

09-10-2005, 04:08 PM

Sorry didn't see you post that !

Jon Fuller

09-10-2005, 04:10 PM

I haven't been to speed week for a few years now, is the lovely oul fella with the pushbike and silly hat still pit marshal, can't remember his name, but think he's been around for ever.

Techteam

09-10-2005, 04:13 PM

Guy called Ray Hewartson, not heard many people call him a lovely fella

Jon Fuller

09-10-2005, 04:18 PM

I see Taffy Arthurs' name there in print, he'll look after me :D

Jon Fuller

09-10-2005, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Techteam
Guy called Ray Hewartson, not heard many people call him a lovely fella

Ray, thats him, why do you say that, I always enjoyed all his old stories! is he still about?

Techteam

09-10-2005, 04:38 PM

I don't think he will go this year but he may as it is Coniston and he always wanted to see records back there. He is not well and getting treatment for cancer.

Jon Fuller

09-10-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Techteam
He is not well and getting treatment for cancer.

That's terrible!

Well I hope to see him there then.

GrahamF

18-10-2005, 03:20 PM

Can someone please let me know what the dates are for Coniston records week ?

Jon Fuller

19-10-2005, 12:29 AM

29th Oct - 4th Nov I think

roofer

19-10-2005, 01:15 AM

31 october till 4 november.

MrRob

19-10-2005, 02:00 AM

Why the hell do they have it during the ?!*$ing week I ask you?
I was gonna go but I have no holiday left.

verytricky

19-10-2005, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by MrRob
Why the hell do they have it during the ?!*$ing week I ask you?
I was gonna go but I have no holiday left.

So you are going to miss the V24 record:argue:

MrRob

19-10-2005, 12:23 PM

what day are you doing it?

verytricky

19-10-2005, 02:02 PM

Gonna aim for the monday and tuesday runs.....

verytricky

24-10-2005, 10:28 AM

I dug out my certificate from Windermere last year.

On the 15th October 2004 I averaged 74.97 mph over the 1km run. The record for V24 is 75.77 mph. My 'down' time was 75.03 mph, with my 'up' time 74.91 mph...

So 76.00 will get me the record:hugegrin: ( you have to exceed the record by 0.3% to claim the record!)

Thursday will be spend polishing the underside of the V24! Then a blanket on the rollers, so the freshly polished hull does not get scuffed in any way, and up to Conniston!

I have to improve on my last years speed by 1.03 mph to claim the record!

Techteam

24-10-2005, 01:03 PM

Do not polish the bottom of your boat. Certainly not with a wax polish. Fastest is to wet and dry the running surface with 800 paper just where it touches the water when running full trim. If you don't want to do that just leave it as it is.

MrRob

24-10-2005, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Techteam
Do not polish the bottom of your boat. Certainly not with a wax polish. Fastest is to wet and dry the running surface with 800 paper just where it touches the water when running full trim. If you don't want to do that just leave it as it is.

How does that work?

Techteam

24-10-2005, 01:29 PM

When a boat starts to run at high speed the friction created between the hull and the water creates heat. Polishes especially wax polishes tend to ball up and increase the friction. Wet and Dry creates a smooth matt surface that actually helps break the surface tension of the water and reduce the friction.

MrRob

24-10-2005, 01:33 PM

Cool

Gav

24-10-2005, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Techteam
When a boat starts to run at high speed the friction created between the hull and the water creates heat. Polishes especially wax polishes tend to ball up and increase the friction. Wet and Dry creates a smooth matt surface that actually helps break the surface tension of the water and reduce the friction.

i have noticed that when rubbing down plugs/moulds, the 1200 w&d finish is Silky smooth and very friction free, on a polished mould there is more resistance even when wet.....

MrRob

24-10-2005, 01:51 PM

Interesting stuff!

Techteam

24-10-2005, 02:08 PM

I spent a lot of time experimenting with this. I agree 1200 gives the finest finish as you would expect and I went as low as 600 but generally found 800 to be the best, the extra roughness seems to hold a very fine air barrier. The only time I have ever "polished" was on a painted composite Seebold SST120. We noticed the tunnel and inside of the sponsons took ages to dry. I was working for Porsche at the time and found they were using a 2 part polymer coating to protect the paint on a new car. I used this on the whole of the tunnel roof and inside the sponsons and then wet and dried the end of the sponsons. I am convinced this made a big difference to competitiveness and the boat dried in 5 minutes flat.

verytricky

24-10-2005, 06:39 PM

So this is serious advice?:duell:

Or am I not getting the joke?:dizzy:

I did hear of a Honda boat roughening up the edge of their steps with an addon strip, but that is actually illegal. Would this be considered illegal in any way? What thoughts do you have?

Techteam

25-10-2005, 02:45 AM

Serious as you like. This is not illegal as you are not adding anything. Blueprinting the hull has been an accepted way of increasing speed for a long time.

Wayne Kerr

25-10-2005, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Techteam
I spent a lot of time experimenting with this. I agree 1200 gives the finest finish as you would expect and I went as low as 600 but generally found 800 to be the best, the extra roughness seems to hold a very fine air barrier. The only time I have ever "polished" was on a painted composite Seebold SST120. We noticed the tunnel and inside of the sponsons took ages to dry. I was working for Porsche at the time and found they were using a 2 part polymer coating to protect the paint on a new car. I used this on the whole of the tunnel roof and inside the sponsons and then wet and dried the end of the sponsons. I am convinced this made a big difference to competitiveness and the boat dried in 5 minutes flat.
There you go then Mike K.

All that "lob" you keep plastering on ,,,,,, leave it rough !!!!!

More time for beer that way, :drink: plus a few minuetts left to spend pumping out the "Abbo" craft! :up: :) :)

verytricky

25-10-2005, 12:37 PM

Hell....

I guess I am confused. I was advised to rain-x the bottom of the hull. Now advised to roughen it.

:wotzhapni

I guess I could rain-x it for Monday, then sandpaper it monday night for Tuesday?

At least the OIL and GEAR box fluid is taken care of: Thanks for the Royal Purple tip. I spoke to their guru in the USA and the local guy in the UK, and I have a plan for both the engine oil and the gearbox oil!

jw.

29-10-2005, 06:07 PM

You do? Share it with us VT.

Give us the lowdown on the oils.

verytricky

29-10-2005, 07:06 PM

I have a gearbox oil that is the equivalent of 0w15 vs the current volvo spec of 70W95. It will not be any good for long distance/long usage, like putting in it your own engine. It has a life measured in hours of usage, rather than months!

I also have an oil for the engine which is rated at 0w10. This also has special properties regarding the sealing of the rings and something o do with shear and something else about not having something that other oils have and why that is better for short burst use....I dont understand, but the guys from Royal Purple are actually going to Conniston, and will be on hand with the various oils and testers and stuff. This 0w10 is like water. It is really liquid stuff. This whole setup is worth % extra HP at the same revs..

With the advice of several members, I am also better prepared for the actual run.

The boat - I think - can not get any better. What remains is if I can hold the top speed for the whole KM there and back!