Looking for John Lonsdale

[Peterjfinch]

Hi All, I believe that I have purchased a boat that used to belong to John Lonsdale. I need to know who her first owner was and find out her original name was. She is being re launched next Thursday, hopefully with a name.

Any help with this would be gratefully received.

Thanks

Peter
:headbang:

[cooolaii]

Hi there,i have pics of a P21 from which i owned in 95 and it came from uk,that boat was imported to Gib ,its blue with orange stripes and it says patriot on the side and p201 in a white back ground,will post picks as soon as poss.

[Peterjfinch]

Hi Coool, That sounds like the boat. Was it something to do with a British forces guy? Please post photo's ASAP. Do you know the Hull ID number? Do you know if it was the original name?

Photos of the inside would be good too, if you have them. I'll probably know it from the paint but the inside should be a give away.

Thanks a lot

Peter

[cooolaii]

sorry pete no pics from the inside as i only have like 3 or 4 pics from the outside with a cover on,dont really know about forces guy as i cant even remember who i bought it from,i dont know hull number nor name,as its something i never put attention on looking @,but name not on hull as its something i would have seen,i cant sus out how to post pics as ive never done it before,DUH,anyhelp on that pls?before i forget i never even used the boat as i sold it and i think it was painted in purple and got an evinrude or yami put on.

[Wacky Racer]

Cooolaii

Check you PM

[cooolaii]

Hi Wacky,ivr just sent them to u ,hope they get to u.

[Wacky Racer]

Patriot photo

This is the boat I was talking about, Photo's from cooolaii

[Wacky Racer]

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[Peterjfinch]

Thats Her !!!!!!!! I can tell by the paint and the fading from different colours, in different places. See pics below. Coool, can you please let me know your name and when you had the boat from and till. Thanks for this. Thanks Wacky for your help too. Any more info, prior to these photos would be great.

Peter

[Peterjfinch]

Also, the number had the thin stripe around it, like your pictures and it had the red infill with ally rub strip.

[Peterjfinch]

Yellow round screen bottom

[Peterjfinch]

Yellow on hull and the hole, where the white plastic fitting is, in your pic. I have that fitting too.

[Peterjfinch]

Does anyone know who "Anther Marine Limited" is, the name on her. Not sure what that number could be either, any ideas.

Coool, can you email me the pictures in full resolution Peterjfinch@telefonica.net. I'll let you know when I'm round your way with her, I do plan to do the Spanish coast some time next year, hopefully.

Peter

[Wacky Racer]

It's Panther marine, owned by the late Roger Blowers, Used to do the engines on a few ski race boats

[Peterjfinch]

Thanks Wacky, another dead end. Can you think of anyone I could contack, to find out who owned her before 1995 and if there were any previous names. I guess that when John Lonsdale had her, her name was the same as those pics? Any idea of what year / years that could have been.

Many Thanks for all your help.

Regards

Peter

[cooolaii]

Hi pete ,as i said i bought that boat @ the end of 94 or beggining of 95 ,if u can see middle pic it has date when i took pic,and it spent a good few months in my front patio till i sold it again,i think it was painted in purple or blue,and was then stolen from a spanish port very near gib area,i think it was hardly used,but i will ask the bloke who bought it from me as he will know the other part of the story .



Mark

[Wacky Racer]

As far as I know John bought the boat new, and sold it in 94, then bought the purple one in 95 or 96. If I were you, I would give Chasewater club a ring, in Cannock, Birmingham, someone should be able to give you his number, can't find the phot I have of the boat but it is the same boat.

[dbe1]

Contact details for the ChaseWater Ski Club


Club details
Address Pool Road, Brownhills, West Midland
Near Cannock Staffs

Contact information
Club Tel 01543 378457 Club Fax 01543 301735
Club Email carl@jones169.wanadoo.co.uk
Club Contact Carl Jones Home Tel 01543 672342
Work Tel Mobile 07968113721
Email carl@jones169.wanadoo.co.uk

[Peterjfinch]

Thank You dbe 1, Just emailed Carl and can only wait and hope. She goes back in the water on Thursday morning and it would be great to have her original name.

Thanks for your help, most appreciated.

Peter

[cooolaii]

Hi Pete ,ime qeurious now,where did u buy the boat from then,down this area Gib way?coz its gone pretty far up,i think it must have been auctioned when found and no1 claimed it back.

cooolaii...

[Peterjfinch]

Hi Coool, I'm curious too, want to find out as much as possible. I bought her from a guy in Chichester, UK. He says "The chap I bought it from was a Royal Marine based in Poole. He bought it back from Gibraltar and had it in his garage for years. I owned it for two years after he did. When he owned it, it was called "Night Angel"". He also says "The photograph of her original gel coat is exactly what was under the primer. When I bought her, she had been badly painted in what looked like magnolia. When I stripped that paint off, it revealed the colour scheme that is in the 1995 photo".

So your guess is as good as mine but I would like to find out as much as I can. Any more details you can offer, from Gib, would be great.

Thanks

Peter

[cooolaii]

Ok Pete,as soon as i come across this bloke i sold it too ile ask him what really happend to it,but ime not to sure if he bought it from gib again,maybe it was recoverd from spain and taken back into gib again ,and then sold could be that,what colour was underneath the magnolia and before the original gel,coz i think this bloke i sold it to ,did not paint it in magnolia.the pics wacky posted on my behalf is the best i could do,but i might be able to do better if i scan them,that was from my mobile to pc.


cooolaii

[Peterjfinch]

Hi Coool, I would like to know all about her. the original gel was blue, with white gel number plaques. The paint, under tha magnolia was the colours in your pictures + a dayglow orange / Red around the engine bay. Any pictures or any information, you could get mem, would be great.

Thanks again.

Peter

[Peterjfinch]

Hi Coool, the plot thickens. I got the following information from the guy I bought her from. "all the boats that were for sale at the yard when I bought the Phantom were bought at auction from the Royal Navy. They were confiscated by the Navy for smuggling around the Gibraltar area and ended up in Blanford Army camp in Dorset. They were bought by an Army soldier before being bought by the Royal Marine in Hamworthy, Poole."

Interesting huh.

Peter

[cooolaii]

Hi Pete ,thats strange coz when the Navy came down to take our boats,well we can call that stealing better,as when we went to the berthings the following morning the boats where not there,they just cut lines and took them during the nite,the only thing they left as was a souveniour the pudlock,but the strange thing was that they came down for ribs only,and ime 100'% sure about that ,as i lost my 23 foot cobra with a 225 yami brand new just bought from picton boats a few months before,that would also be intresting to find out were that is in the uk,there was 1 more cobra identicall to mine as we both bought together,the last thing i heard a few years ago and that was talking straight with Steve i think his name is form picton boats that the scouts group had it ,i dont remember to good.

[Maxim Gibson]

This and a similar blue ring came from an auction in the south somewhere here after being confiscated out of Gibralter.....
Do you know how to find out about these auctions at all?
Max :up:

[cooolaii]

Hi Max,i know tha boat it belonged to a chap called Giovanni down ere,but offcourse not with that engine.

cooolaii

[Maxim Gibson]

Cool, I've been searching the internet and it seems I'd have to make some direct contacts to find out when auctions were coming up.
Do they regularly come round and confiscate boats? I guess they have to have some hard evidence against it?

[cooolaii]

Max i aint really into autions but ,if u see the ammount of ribs hulls and allsorts there is ,ur jaw would drop,i actually went round to a compound in spain a few months ago,and i got told by the owner that i would have to check internet too for dates ,which i never did look,but ile find out.and about the hard evidence ,this aint the uk where its much more flexible to own a boat,if u dont have insurance for the vessel to go out @ sea U LOOSE IT,if u dont have the appropiate certificate to drive it,U MIGHT LOOSE IT,if u dont have anything according to the spanish authoroties up to date ,ur boat is HISTORY m8,especially if its suspicious in some sort of dodgy bussiness.and all the pics off ribs in this forum that have been posted today with 4 or 5 engines ,well the guy that said that they will all end one on top off unother ,beleive him thats so true.

[Peterjfinch]

Hi Coool, I've also found oyt that she had an adhesive number on her too, It was "G1205", I presume that's a Gib number.

Peter

[Maxim Gibson]

Sounds like a registration number of some sort, like the G665 on the black phantom

[Tony Davis]

Originally posted by Peterjfinch
were bought by an Army soldier before being bought by the Royal Marine in Hamworthy, Poole."

Interesting huh.

Peter

I remember seeing a lorry load of them being delivered to the marines camp in Poole a few years ago. Alistair Mitchell, the previous owner of "mambokings" Extreme 24 bought one I think.

[Burty]

think this one came from the same sort of thing, ex drug running boat

[fastun]

That looks like some tasty war!

[Burty]

Originally posted by fastun
That looks like some tasty war!

2005 Worlds, first race

[fastun]

Water* - I thought so!

Who was skiing?

[cooolaii]

winston running boat m8,not drugs

[Burty]

Originally posted by fastun
Water* - I thought so!

Who was skiing?

Claire Kirk, womens F2

[HAVE A GO]

BLUE PHANTOM FOR SALE IF ANY ONE INTRESTED

[Peterjfinch]

Hi All. Patrioy was launched on Thursday 16th November and all went well. Swell too long and high to go mad but happy with result, Photo not brilliant, taken from video. Thanks for all your help.

Peter

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[JamesM]

Cool, trim it in a bit though yeah :)

[cooolaii]

Peter remember to put the flag on,u can get done without it in spain :) lol.

[Peterjfinch]

:hugegrin: Can anyone advise, as to the use of a bow tank. Patriot is fitted with one and I re fitted it. There are no pipes, pickups, pumps , outlets, inlets or aything for it. Would I benefit from using it and if so, what should I buy, to opporate it. It has two small fittings on the top of it and one large one at the bottom.

Cheers.

Peter

[Maxim Gibson]

Some use em, some don't,
Would need pick up scoop on back, operated by a throttle style lever by cable usually.
Pipe feed to the tank, dump out let which can be done on same lever and a breather.
Top two fittings are breather and inlet, bottom is dump

[Peterjfinch]

Hi all, Raised engine about 2.5" and took her out this morning. Still a bit rough so didn't push too hard. She appeared to lean over to port more than when the engine was lower. This time I was alone so no weight on Port side. Did push her to 60mph (Max speed log from GPS) but she didn't seem faster although she lurched over hard. Any ideas ???? If the answer is, to move the engine over, how much ????. Cheers Going for a

Peter

[sinkunit0]

get it going then trim out should stop the leaning

[Peterjfinch]

Anyone managed to get hold of John Lonsdale, I need to find out the original HIN for insurance. Peter... PS, new 20" mid fitted and waiting for gear case to be fitted with 20" shaft. Should only be another week or so, to try her again. Fingers crossed.

[nigelk]

Try sending a pm to Martin Davies on this forum. He may have a contact for Jon Lonsdale?