Magnetic healing

[Jon Fuller]

I read, or was told, or summat, that by magnetically charging the molecules of the fuel in the way they do, as the fuel is ejaculated into the air flow, the molecules repel each other at the first opportunity ('likes' repel & all that) which aids the atomisation. But I aint no scientist, so don't go flaming me!

[Jon Fuller]

I'd also add, I've never used one, though 'Hospitality Inns' did have a pair on it.

[JamesM]

As I said before if the improvement in fuel economy comes from an increase in engine efficiency (where else would it come from?) then there will also be a resultant increase in power output under given conditions. So what I'd like to see to convince me is an engine on a dyno at constant rpm of X outputting a stable X bhp which (allowing for some time for the magnetically affected fuel to the reach the engine) increases when a magnet is placed next to the fuel supply line and then decreases when said magnet is removed. This effect must of course be repeatable and consistant.

This would be a much more conclusive test rather than just fitting it and driving around. My average mpg changes every time between fill ups depending on where I've been, traffic jams, If I've towed anything etc. Hardly controlled conditions.

Do F1 teams use magnets on their cars?

[Jon Fuller]

Originally posted by Johnny Boat Dude
Do F1 teams use magnets on their cars?

Yeah, at least they do on my Scalextrics McLaren! keeps the fkkr on the track a treat!

Magnatraction!!

[JamesM]

Well thats it then I'm convinced!!!

[Captain Chaos]

Scalextrics........ needs bigger fkin magnets!

[daren]

Originally posted by Matt
OK, so someone explain, in proper technical terms, why they reckon these magnetic things work on your car.

They tried them on Mythbusters a short while back, tried 4 or 5 of them - measured fuel load, circular track, same car etc - not a bit of difference, in fact I think one gave worse mpg.

[Matt]

Tell ya what, if a manfr/supplier wants to send me one to test, I'll run it on my generator. I'll run it under controlled conditions (ie constant load, constant temperature) for a fixed volume of fuel and time how long it runs for. I'll report the results back here.

[Tony Davis]

What's always puzzled me, is that if they work, why don't the car manufacturer's fit them as standard.

[Matt]

Mebbe they do, and that's why they don't?

[JamesM]

Originally posted by Tony Davis
What's always puzzled me, is that if they work, why don't the car manufacturer's fit them as standard.

Yeah for example Honda must feel pretty stupid right now having spent millions developing VTEC when they could have just bought Ecotek for 50 quid.

[Rupert Munro]

Those who have used them on their cars and not had much success, were they newer cars? They work better on the older cars that have less efficient engines - the newer engines have a better combustion and so more of the fuel is already combusted so less effect.

[Rupert Munro]

Also, not so great for people with injector engines - they have to buy one for each injector rather than just one for the carb

[JamesM]

Not a convincing argument. Do drag racers use them?

[JamesM]

My boat has carbs, will I see a few hundred more rpm if I place a magnet next to my fuel line?

I have some super powerfull rare earth magnets right here!!!

[Burnett]

People are always quick to slate these alternative remedies and theories, but they really do work.

For the last ten years I've been spreading cold custard on my doorstep every night to keep the wild elephants from pinching the milk bottles. And you know what? I've never seen a single elephant in my street. Not one.

Who says it doesn't work?

Johhny Boat Dude:

'My boat has carbs, will I see a few hundred more rpm if I place a magnet next to my fuel line?'

You'd probably be better off placing the magnets by the tacho needle if you want to see a few hundred extra revs.

Magnetic bracelets would make for some interesting navigating if you have your compass mounted right by the helm, wouldn't they?

[Rupert Munro]

Originally posted by Johnny Boat Dude
Not a convincing argument. Do drag racers use them?

It wasn't meant to be persuasive just o possible reason, as i said my dad had one on his car and he found that it did improve the consumption, my reasoning for it was on the basis of some fuel that hadnt combusted being 'excited' (chemically, no wise cracks) and so combusting where they might not have before, this i think would occur more in an older engine. WRT the drag aren't they really inefficient anyway and so would have no effect anyway

[ollyit]

k+n air filters dont do shite! had them on a few cars(not my choice previous owners), make the cars run like a bag of crap, overpriced you'd be better off with a sock over the dam thing, or change back to the standard setup and or modify the air box with a few drilled holes and cold air feed ramming air in to the dam thing, k&n also considered "chav" nowadays - the freebie sticker they chuck the box is for u plaster your saxo or 106 1.0litre with to scare real cars owners (subaru/porsche) with induction roar, ohhh scary!

[Jono]

Originally posted by ollyit
k+n air filters dont do shite!....:

Bollocks.

[Matt]

Agreed. A K&N filter is one of the best flowing, best filtering and longest lasting filters you can buy. But you have to set up the motor to suit it. And they smell great too.