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01-02-2013, 10:06 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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Ppl
Does anyone know about Public Performance Licences (PPL) ? I have dismissed these requests as hoax/spam requests !! Is it real ?
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If Only
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01-02-2013, 10:11 AM
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Registered User
Country: Uk
Location: London
Occupation: Mercury main dealer
Boat make: Baba
Engines: 200xs
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Location: London
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Is it about music ? We had a few phone calls awhile back asking if the public could hear our workshop radio because if they could then we would have to buy a ppl. We thought it was a con at the time so never thought anymore about it.
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01-02-2013, 10:14 AM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey Channel Isles
Location: West Coast
Occupation: Hotelier
Interests: Powerboat racing
Boat name: Vodkatini,Cap Camarat,Easy RiderSuper Rider & Hirrondelle
Boat make: Phantom 21,Jeaneau 925 Avenger19.Lorne Campbell Slipstream Tremlett 21.Tigershark 21
Engines: Volvo 5 litre,Merc 115 Tower,Twin 250 Suzukis and 145 Mercruiser LX
Cruising area: Channel Islands and French coast
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Coast
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Yep its the money for old rope brigade if the general public can hear artists music they can collect a license fee.
There is also the PRS performing rights society
If you are running a pub or a restaurant pm me foe advice as its a non boating matter !
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01-02-2013, 10:20 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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Are staff considered as public ?
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National Outboard Immersed Propeller Mono Record 103mph
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01-02-2013, 11:50 AM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 2,656
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Bob let me know what you find out. We also have ppl and prs issues!
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01-02-2013, 12:03 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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COPYRIGHT ACT 1988......
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52 Free public showing or playing of broadcast
(1) The showing or playing in public of a broadcast to an audience who have
not paid for admission to the place where the broadcast is to be seen or
heard does not infringe any copyright in -
(a) the broadcast;
(b) any sound recording (except so far as it is an excepted sound
recording) included in it; or
(c) any film included in it.
(1A) For the purposes of this Part an "excepted sound recording" is a sound
recording -
(a) whose author is not the author of the broadcast in which it is
included; and
(b) which is a recording of music with or without words spoken or sung.
(1B) Where by virtue of subsection (1) the copyright in a broadcast shown or
played in public is not infringed, copyright in any excepted sound recording
included in it is not infringed if the playing or showing of that broadcast in
public -
(a) forms part of the activities of an organisation that is not established or
conducted for profit; or
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(b) is necessary for the purposes of -
(i) repairing equipment for the reception of broadcasts;
(ii) demonstrating that a repair to such equipment has been
carried out; or
(iii) demonstrating such equipment which is being sold or let for
hire or offered or exposed for sale or hire.
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01-02-2013, 01:14 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
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Location: Salcombe South Devon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OCRDA
COPYRIGHT ACT 1988......
72
52 Free public showing or playing of broadcast
(1) The showing or playing in public of a broadcast to an audience who have
not paid for admission to the place where the broadcast is to be seen or
heard does not infringe any copyright in -
(a) the broadcast;
(b) any sound recording (except so far as it is an excepted sound
recording) included in it; or
(c) any film included in it.
(1A) For the purposes of this Part an "excepted sound recording" is a sound
recording -
(a) whose author is not the author of the broadcast in which it is
included; and
(b) which is a recording of music with or without words spoken or sung.
(1B) Where by virtue of subsection (1) the copyright in a broadcast shown or
played in public is not infringed, copyright in any excepted sound recording
included in it is not infringed if the playing or showing of that broadcast in
public -
(a) forms part of the activities of an organisation that is not established or
conducted for profit; or
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(b) is necessary for the purposes of -
(i) repairing equipment for the reception of broadcasts;
(ii) demonstrating that a repair to such equipment has been
carried out; or
(iii) demonstrating such equipment which is being sold or let for
hire or offered or exposed for sale or hire.
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By the look of the number of premises that have paid for a license it is:
A. Not a hoax
B. Harder than quoting copyright law to get out of!
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01-02-2013, 01:45 PM
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Registered User
Country: US
Location: Virginia
Interests: Quiet desperation
Boat name: A Little Noisy
Boat make: Excalibur 24
Engines: Express Racing 525
Cruising area: Mobjack Bay (where?)
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Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Dutch
There is also the PRS performing rights society
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From the PRS website:
Do I need a Music Licence if I already have a PPL Licence?
PPL is the representative body for record companies and performers. PRS for Music represents composers and music publishers.
Although you may have other licences, a Music Licence is an entirely separate legal requirement to your PPL Licence. A Music Licence is required regardless of any other type of licence you may own.
PRS for Music licenses the public performance of original musical works however performed (live or otherwise) on behalf of the composers, writers and publishers of music. Entirely separate to this, PPL licenses the public performance of sound recordings on behalf of record companies and the musicians on the recording.
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01-02-2013, 04:44 PM
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Registered User
Country: Netherlands
Location: Harderwijk
Occupation: See my website ;)
Interests: duh ......
Boat make: Seaquel 600XS & Seaquel 700XS
Engines: Merc 300XS
Cruising area: Veluwemeer/Ijsselmeer
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Location: Harderwijk
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We have the same over here , i started recieving bils about 6years ago a mate advised me to not open the envelope and send it back , did this about 3times and haven'd had any bils over the last 5years .
Paying for people to listen to music wich is free when the drive home come on aint we paying enough taxes
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