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17-05-2012, 07:33 PM
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what is the chance of this being an origional P21 mould ?
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20-05-2012, 08:13 PM
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Can't read it, it's all Dutch to me ,,,,,,
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20-05-2012, 08:15 PM
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Pictures say more than words mate
Ill give it a try :
I have got a 21foot production mould , there is a unfinished hull inside the moulds wich needs to be finished . Lack of time forces to sell the moulds but its word the efford , if needed i have some roving mat to go with it .
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21-05-2012, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph@ntastic
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Very slim indeed I would think!
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21-05-2012, 01:53 PM
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I know it is slim this is an origional , any one who know's how to find the details to recognice it is an origional sb mould ?
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25-05-2012, 09:42 AM
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They are not the steve baker moulds baker moulds went to trios then cobra and then to me and vezey they are still locked in a barn in southampton the tooling never left the uk hopeing to get them tomorrow morning after a 2 year nightmare those moulds are splashed for sure
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25-05-2012, 10:30 AM
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p21 moulds
One thing i would say to any one with those moulds is you best make some big changes if you want to build and sell them as you do not have rights to build as it is bag out of order to those that do i have had no access to the sb tooling and can understand if you want a new p21 and none are on the market why not splash but the p21 will be back and just one other thing i payed for the sb tooling nearly 2 years ago i have had a hull and deck for 15 mounths now could have splashed them and any has the right i have but i have not done it as yet
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25-05-2012, 01:07 PM
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I'm not perfect with my grammar and punctuation but the odd comma here and there would make your posts easier to understand Russ! Please don't take offence!
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25-05-2012, 02:32 PM
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The Doc
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I'd be looking at the dash, if its different from the original, then they are almost certainly the korteland molds.
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25-05-2012, 03:01 PM
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p21 moulds
sorry for the lack of good gramma as i know that it lets me down, but i blame my teachers for that. even though i have crap english i assure you my boat building is top class. and take it from me 35 years ago teachers didnt give a shit. but i hope my threads are readable. thanks for pointing out no offence taken mate but there are those on here that make me look like a brain surgeon but no disrespect to any one on here as i like to here everyones opinion.I would say please dont put people off from making there voice heard because of there gramma.
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25-05-2012, 03:53 PM
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If you open up the other pic it seems that the moulds are for a MK1 P21 , The purple boat shown in the pics is the MK3 P21 which is the boat which Russ own's the moulds for.
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25-05-2012, 03:54 PM
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Heres the second pic:
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26-05-2012, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PuppiesBalls
If you open up the other pic it seems that the moulds are for a MK1 P21 ,
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I would really like to know how you worked that out?
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28-05-2012, 09:06 AM
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The coamings on the early p21 are sloped
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28-05-2012, 09:17 AM
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BananaShark Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PuppiesBalls
The coamings on the early p21 are sloped
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Does that make them original?
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28-05-2012, 10:47 AM
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The Doc
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Could of course be an 18 mold (plenty of those have been splashed). Although the topsides look a bit upright
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28-05-2012, 12:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Chaos
Could of course be an 18 mold (plenty of those have been splashed). Although the topsides look a bit upright
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They are p18 moulds for sure ,those moulds could not possibly produce that boat.The rear of the deck is completely wrong,it's odd that the transom has been cut in the moulds,and by the looks very low.
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28-05-2012, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Does that make them original?
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I was meerly highlighting that the purple boat shown in the first picture didnt come from those moulds, not suggesting weather or not they were genuine.
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28-05-2012, 01:06 PM
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BananaShark Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PuppiesBalls
I was meerly highlighting that the purple boat shown in the first picture didnt come from those moulds, not suggesting weather or not they were genuine.
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Ah!
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