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29-05-2009, 01:59 PM
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Ski ropes
Looking to get a new ski rope and was wondering what would be a good length to go for?
Also where do you get the harness type rope that that you ski racer dudes use?
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29-05-2009, 02:53 PM
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it really depends what you'll be using it for,
Racing, i usually run about 150ft in seriously rough water and then 170/180ft on real flat water (as a f3 skier) F1 will be up to around 220ft or maybe more in real flat water, and f2 somewhere in between.
for recreational/pleasure, (slaloming and playskiing), i dont really know, maybe 70 to 100ft? as an estimate
handleswise, (its kinda difficult to explain,) there are a few ways of doing it, two handles are attached to webbing and these are passed either side of the body and held at the back with one hand, the webbing is attached to another handle, either as a whole piece of webbing or with rope, which is held infront with the other hand.
OR
just use a normal 'bar' handle if recreational skiing
hope this helps
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29-05-2009, 03:07 PM
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Thanks for that,
Any idea where i could get a 100 ft Ski rope?
It seems alot easier to ski/wakeboard the further you are from the boat, Is that really the case?
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29-05-2009, 03:15 PM
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its better to be further back when you're going fast, so you have time to read what the waters doing, but if its too long it will dip in the water and snatch so thats no good, need to find a good balance
not really too sure on a length for wakeboarding, maybe the lower end of the scale, say 60-70'. maybe try and google it and see what you come up with
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30-05-2009, 09:25 AM
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Just bought my rope from www.ropeonline.com who are based down in Aus.
200m at $121.64 (Australian dollars) plus postage.
SkiFAST Pro-Lite 5.3 - 200m (656'), Weight: 975g per 100m
They advertise as also being available from www.bernico.be, but for me it was easier to get them sourced direct from the supplier so never tried the Bernico link
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30-05-2009, 01:28 PM
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Greg bassam also sells that rope, about £50 for 230'
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01-06-2009, 11:57 AM
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75 ft for standard recreational skiing / wakeboarding. If you want to mono ski or wake board at a level then it's a different story.
Slalom Mono you need a proper rope with take offs to shorten as you improve and the rope itself must be of the right type to give the right amount of stretch as you power out of the turn buoy. At the shortest shortening the rope does not actually reach the turn at 90 degrees from the boat and you are reliant on your body length to get the ski round it. I never got to this stage as I am short
Wakeboard again, once you improve you will need a dedicated rope as they like minimal stretch when pulling for the wake.
Toys generally use 90 foot ish unless you have a wish to kill the rider dead then you should extend the rope as much as feasible to generate the whip
Barefoot is generally 100 foot lines again with minimal stretch and you will see that they use a wider handle for stability. i.e waist width as you hang on with both hands.
Trick skiing you need approx 60 foot but most importantly there will be a bridle forward of the handle to put your foot in for toe hold tricks. It's a good idea to have a release in the boat and an intelligent spotter for this style of trick unless you want your manhood stretched
Parascending is generally 200 foot ish of 14mm rope and it's a good idea to watch for the current as you prepare for take off unless you want the father / son / plastic dinghy combo to be launched in the air at the same time as we did in poole bay some years ago
Ski racing answered above and I have no idea as when I tried it I ended screaming like a girl and sold the ski the next day
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01-06-2009, 01:57 PM
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you done well to get it at that price. greg charges over 150 quid for the 5.6mm stuff for 200meters
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01-06-2009, 04:02 PM
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he has now got a Worlds Team to support/pay for
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02-06-2009, 06:36 PM
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Looking to get a new ski rope and was wondering what would be a good length to go for?
Also where do you get the harness type rope that that you ski racer dudes use?
I need to say this, as I have done a lot of home work on this:
The kind of rope you are looking for should float like say the polyethylene, then stranded to be strong and easy to splice, also not too rigid, colour, weight, diameter, etc, but most important: "Breaking strength". I have not been able to find a supplier that could give me the exact specs of the rope!
Why is that? because with that, any one could order it locally from a manufacturer or importer.
My advise: unless, they are prepared to give you a guarantee in writing that it will not brake while being towed, ask for the specs of a particular well proven rope that you like and then shop around!
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