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05-11-2006, 08:32 PM
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Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
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Unknown Phantom 21
Hi All,
Can anyone guide me in the right direction, to find out more about a 21ft Phantom, built in about 1986, blue in colour, with white number plaques, with the number P201 on it. I have bought this boat and would like to find out about her history.
Any ideas would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Peter
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06-11-2006, 05:38 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: London
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Interests: Retired Ski Racer, Ski Racing Photography, Steam Railway Fireman
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IIRC it used to belong to John Lonsdale from the Chasewater Club and it was used for Ski Racing
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06-11-2006, 05:59 PM
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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All Steamed up, Can you elaberate? Can you put me in touch with John Lonsdale or the Chasewater Club? Are you sure about this. Tell me more, please.
Peter
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06-11-2006, 06:02 PM
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
Posts: 716
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PS, this is her now, with a new lease of life, in Mallorca. Hope Mr Lonsdale would approve.
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06-11-2006, 06:20 PM
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The Doc
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peter,
you should send a bunch of high res photos to eith Jon f or Matt (both moderators here) then I'm sure they'll put them in the readers ridses part of the gallery.
perhaps some build pics as well?
regards
chaos
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07-11-2006, 06:22 PM
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Boat make: Phantom 23
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Quote:
Originally posted by Captain Chaos
peter,
Jon f or Matt (both moderators here)
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Has TD been demoted then? 
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07-11-2006, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Peterjfinch
PS, this is her now, with a new lease of life, in Mallorca. Hope Mr Lonsdale would approve.
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you need to move those axle's back abit!
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07-11-2006, 06:25 PM
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
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Hi Pup, Why's that? Without the jockey wheel down, it sits lavel.
Peter
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07-11-2006, 06:30 PM
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Boat make: Phantom 23
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because the front of the trailer is ment to be about 50 kg. otherwise when you tow it, it will snake all the time.
our old trailer used to balance and it was awful to tow with!
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07-11-2006, 06:32 PM
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
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Thanks for the advise.
Peter
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07-11-2006, 08:10 PM
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hello
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Quote:
Originally posted by PuppiesBalls
because the front of the trailer is ment to be about 50 kg. otherwise when you tow it, it will snake all the time.
our old trailer used to balance and it was awful to tow with!
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Is that really true? Burty told me 60 kg nose weight once but I dismissed it as bollox as thats an awfull lot of weight to have to lift when adjusting the jockey wheel on the clamp. I doubt a mercury 2.5 power head weighs much more than that!!!
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07-11-2006, 09:37 PM
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dude its 60lb's not 60kg's
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07-11-2006, 10:01 PM
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I think i got told my Mr Arther Degraaff, looks asif he was the chap who made your trailer too. 
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07-11-2006, 10:02 PM
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
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Now I'm comfused. 50 kg, 60 kg and now 60lb's. Whitch is it.
Peter
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07-11-2006, 10:03 PM
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
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Correct Pup
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07-11-2006, 10:28 PM
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Our axles are quite abit further back than yours- see pic
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07-11-2006, 10:40 PM
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Pete, doesn't really matter about how much nose weight. Not too much to lift but enough to put weight onto your ball hitch, as i said minimum 60lb's
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08-11-2006, 08:23 AM
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Registered User
Country: Spain
Location: Mallorca
Occupation: Retired
Interests: Boats, boats and boats
Boat name: Patriot and Forca
Boat make: Phantom 21. Falcon Bonito 36
Engines: 200hp Mariner. 2 x GM 6.5 Twin Turbo Diesels
Cruising area: The Med
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Mallorca
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Hi Pup, Have you had the winch support, on your trailer, modified. I spoke with Mr Degraaff about this, mine is far too high. PS, what are those wheels off.
Peter
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08-11-2006, 03:21 PM
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09-11-2006, 08:11 AM
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hello
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Quote:
Originally posted by Burty
dude its 60lb's not 60kg's
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You defo told me 60kg's at the time cus I remember saying "60 kilo's, f**k off thats like lifting an anvil" and Cye took the piss out of you too. We wouldn't have said all that for a mere 27kg's.
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