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Old 16-01-2013, 11:42 AM   #1
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Water Ski Racing Boat Classes

A quick outline of the British boat classes:

Formula 1
Boat length: up to 6.5m.
Engines: inboard or outboard upto a maximum of 575ci. Turbo chargers, super chargers and avgas allowed.

Formula 2
Boat length: 5.48 - 6.5m.
Engines: single standard engine up to a manufacturers rating of 300hp.

Formula 3
Boat length: 5.48 - 6.5m.
Engines: single standard engine up to a manufacturers rating of 150hp.
Older engines which produce 150hp maximum horsepower are still allowed to race.

Main Race Open Class
Boat length: 5.48 - 6.5m.
Engine: Maximum 250hp, excluding XR2 F1 engine.
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Old 16-01-2013, 08:45 PM   #2
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No min length for F1 ?

Is it XR2 or F1 that is not allowed ?
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Old 16-01-2013, 09:01 PM   #3
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Hi Bob

I searched the rules for a minimum length in Formula 1 but funnily enough couldn't find one. People seem more interested in the maximum length in that class!

It is the 2.0l F1 350hp engine that has been banned. We are waiting for confirmation of this season's rules but I could send you like a link to the 2012 rules? We also have our Chief Scrutineer, a BoatMadder for confirmation.

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Old 20-01-2013, 08:23 PM   #4
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Question Baot Classes

Is there room for a lower formula similar to the old "A" Class?
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:29 PM   #5
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I seem to remember that the lower class was Formula 4 ! "A" Class is still Offshore Circuit Racing.

Interestingly I would have a go in Ski Racing if I could run my dirty old V4 Yamaha !
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Old 20-01-2013, 08:46 PM   #6
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The smallest class was 'A' class before it was Formula 4. 'A' class was a 14 footer with about a 50 Merc whereas Formula 4 generally became a 16 footer with an 85 Yam.

The smallest classes were the least well supported and new classes were introduced aimed at the sizes of boats/engines interested people were more likely to have. The current F3 is derived from the Belgian X class but instead of a Bernico 19/150 Merc it is now any 18 to 21 footer with any standard engine up to 150hp.

Bob, doesn't your Yam come into F3 as a older engine which produces up to 150hp?
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Old 22-01-2013, 06:20 PM   #7
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Are you sure avgas is allowed?
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Old 22-01-2013, 07:53 PM   #8
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Are you sure avgas is allowed?
In Formula 1, yes.

Rule 4.05/09 (b):
Fuel or gasoline is unrestricted and competitors are responsible for the supply of their own type of fuel.
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Old 22-01-2013, 08:14 PM   #9
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The smallest class was 'A' class before it was Formula 4. 'A' class was a 14 footer with about a 50 Merc whereas Formula 4 generally became a 16 footer with an 85 Yam.

The smallest classes were the least well supported and new classes were introduced aimed at the sizes of boats/engines interested people were more likely to have. The current F3 is derived from the Belgian X class but instead of a Bernico 19/150 Merc it is now any 18 to 21 footer with any standard engine up to 150hp.

Bob, doesn't your Yam come into F3 as a older engine which produces up to 150hp?
Maybe, I thought F3 was for those horrid new dangled EPA things !!
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Old 22-01-2013, 08:41 PM   #10
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Here we go:

4.05/29: Formula 3 Rules:[/B]
(a) Minimum Length of the hull 18ft or 5.48 metres.
(b) This class is for Single outboards only.
(c) Seating Pilot and Observer side-by-side. Backward facing Observer seat can be positioned aft of
drivers seat.
(d) Standard Recreational outboard engines of 2 stroke, direct injection, or 4 stroke. Not racing or
high performance. (See chart in this bulletin)
(e) Maximum power of 150 HP / 111,85 Kw +/- 5%, measured at the propeller shaft as per ICOMIA
specifications.
(f) Standard Manufacturer’s Exhaust, under water level
(g) Only allowed to change the propeller pitch
(h) Steering. Dual Cable or reliable Hydraulic Steering System
(i) Ballast tank allowed
(j) Bracket, if fitted, adjustable only by hand, not during navigation
(k) Boat construction: Normal materials like on the recreational boats. Not permitted other materials
used for racing like carbon fibre, etc.
(l) All engines must have operational forward, neutral and reverse gears.

[B]Older engines which produce 150hp maximum horsepower are still allowed to race.
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Old 27-03-2013, 10:10 PM   #11
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hi chaps, just a quick question, my boat is 17ft, for f3 the boat needs to be 17ft11inches its does this include the outboard or is it just hull i would love to start doin this, also i think i will be having a drive upto loch earn on the upcoming event, even if i dont compete will i be able to take my boat and have a ski once the event has finished ? i am really looking forward to looking at your boats as iv never seen these type of boats in flesh, look forward to your replies, thanks tim
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Old 28-03-2013, 10:30 AM   #12
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The rules i sent you show how to measure your boat and no the 18ft is just the hull. Don't know what the rules are on Loch Earn about boats but we only race on a part of the Loch. the course is only closed whilst the racing is going on.
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