Classic Powerboats - Page 5

blind dog · 19-04-2007, 07:25 PM

the other boat ide like to trace we had before ford p was black exspress a levi corsair race no 117 twin perkins i beleive it did the ctc called corsair i also believe its on the south coast ,cheers

TimB-C · 19-04-2007, 07:31 PM

she's in torbay/Lyme Bay area poss Exeter, I tried to buy her back in '04, but her engines were burnt out.........

littlenige · 19-04-2007, 08:18 PM

TIm this was the boat you were mixing up with the other Shead hull. This is the ex Miss Enfield II/Yellowdrama/Blitz/British Buzzard etc.

TimB-C · 19-04-2007, 08:28 PM

think you will find that is T2
Yellowdrama was Miss Enfield
Embassy came in first as a sponsor then with Sopwith in Miss Embassy and Uno Embassy Powell,Col Hoare and Harry Hyams

Brambles · 19-04-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

Stan Norman and Norman ran Rebel IB and then you are very correct it was Wicked not Fast, but Maurice bought after they sank her of yarmouth, so wrong again.......................But if it was Don's design of the original it was a very early one, Fat Cat was built the same time as Shady and i'm sure it was a Levi, Martin would put us all right...
Which Shady are you seeing the original or the Wicked/Shady??
Would love to find the wicked one, did a bit of testing with Norman before the Needles in I think 70 after Faireys had put in a new long distance tank and fuel system and delivered her to Dorset Lake without ibstructions..... spent hours try ing to work it floating round Poole harbour begging passing boats for jump start, 'cos we flattened the battery every time we ran out of fuel !!!!!!!!!!
Any one know where Red Aligator is now?
Shaft ( Keith Horseman) was in Marbella for along while

I had dinner with Keith Horseman & his wife last week. Quite a few stories...

TimB-C · 19-04-2007, 08:41 PM

Good god is that old reprebrate still aloud out !!!
One hell of a guy great fun and bloody good driver.......one of those "when men were men and raced OFFSHORE"
Please will you give him my best I have so much respect for Keith.
Great times and driving thru the night from weston to hamble and back to get BP lower unitgs...............great days

Brambles · 19-04-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TimB-C

Good god is that old reprebrate still aloud out !!!
One hell of a guy great fun and bloody good driver.......one of those "when men were men and raced OFFSHORE"
Please will you give him my best I have so much respect for Keith.
Great times and driving thru the night from weston to hamble and back to get BP lower unitgs...............great days

Keith & his wife are long standing friends of my girlfreind. I have only met him once but as you say - great guy. Unfortunately he is not in the best of health now but I get the feeling that he has lived life to the full

. I will happily pass on your best wishes - who shall I say?

Cheers

Ian

TimB-C · 19-04-2007, 09:04 PM

pm sent

blind dog · 19-04-2007, 09:47 PM

thanks tim bc,i drove her from cowes to sandbanks when i was 7 years old my father said it was time to learn,thanks

BluFin · 19-04-2007, 09:50 PM

Miss Embassy
Miss Enfield

Yellowdrama was Miss Enfield II

Found Keith's Ex RB69 boat back in 81. "Western Credit" Well beyond any repair, deck was completely rotted away, hull was delaminated and full of green slime

TimB-C · 19-04-2007, 10:14 PM

that old nail, walked sideways, but when it went, think Keith made it to Oban after a very long run from Douglas...........3 mercs???
It was a direct crib of James Beard and Cive C's Volare, built by Charlie Shepard's Bristol Boats, which was where Keith had his card busieness.....
Charlie built my first circuit cat and mono, the later hated me and kept slinging me out !!!!nafter about the 5 time the ospreys refused to rescue me and said let the bugger swim, I digress sorry..
I think it was the smallest boat in the race..21 foot

TimB-C · 19-04-2007, 10:15 PM

just out of interest where was it?

BluFin · 20-04-2007, 07:32 AM

Was out Cirencester way laying on it\'s belly in a walled garden, back of some houses. Which ties in with the location & Bristol boats.

Thought after yellowdrama Not Miss Enfield II, can I call it Miss Enfield \"III\" though it was never called it !!!

TimB-C · 20-04-2007, 07:38 AM

Ken Casir bought Miss Enfield 2 from Tommy Sopwith, I believe you are confusing 3 with T 2....T2 became Tim Powell's gas turbine "Marlboro"
re Western Credit, rings a vague memory that Nick Cripps miht of hd her which also ties in seeing as he and the family own half the villages in the Cotswolds !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BluFin · 20-04-2007, 07:50 AM

Confusion seems to occur more often nowadays.
******* ANORAK WARNING *******
Was Enfield II as you say that had the two external stringers on the hull side and Enfield Avenger- Unowhot-UnoEmbassy-pobjoy Mint had three external.

TimB-C · 20-04-2007, 08:03 AM

Now your just getting a smart a**

Enfield Avenger was Double O Seven 007 Pascoe Watson twin turbo charged mercruisers and driven by Tim Powell, very fast had many core plug problems only won Deauville.
Pascoe lent the boat to Soppy Toopwith for the last 2 races of the '70 season in the US,(Miami/Nassau and Key West.
She caught fire while racing under protest because turbo's were illegal and "Red" Crise banned them, anyway she went up. I have never seen such a fire the aluminium burnt bright and very hot, Tommy took the boat to the Us as after the Lake Geneva race ther was onlky 1 point between Balestriere and him.
V B rescued Sopwith,and Charles de Selincort and Shead

TimB-C · 20-04-2007, 08:05 AM

In honesty can not remember the number of top side rails, there were so many upgrades etc......Remeber enfield was a major breakthru and Every race had different upgrades.
Don never stopped improving.

blind dog · 20-04-2007, 05:53 PM

acording to my brother the red race boat impounded in spain is p,joymint and ford p was seen at cowes about 5 years ago so hopefully still local,keep your eyes out

TimB-C · 20-04-2007, 07:01 PM

The red boat "Badger" was not pobjoy mint...Pobjoy Mint was still white and after she was seized the customs/guardia dragged her up the runway at Gib and ripped the bottom out of her and the whole was twisted beyond repair...sorry

Adam · 21-04-2007, 06:04 PM

I beleive the red boat was the Robert Bruce boat - which ended it's racing over here as one of Lady Arran's boat and was painted red. Re-engined with petrols I think? That boat ran on outdrives for most of it's time. It ran as Popjoy Mint (class 2 in blue colour) before Lady Arran raced her. I believe this boat was used abroad for illegal purposes!

Ford Persuader never raced after 1977 - and I saw her still in yellow colour about five years ago and looking very much as per late 70's. She had the first pair of 250 Sabres and always ran on straight shafts. Unless anything changed in the latter years!

The two boats were pretty heavy - and were fully welded hulls with no rivetted topsides etc.