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04-04-2013, 02:35 PM
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Registered User
Country: On Water
Location: Out West
Boat make: Cougar 27
Engines: Mercury Promax 300X
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Out West
Posts: 70
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Cougar 27 Certificate
Hi All,
I've provisionally sold my Cougar to a guy in France.
But he needs a cert to say it was built to EU standards.
Any ideas where I might get one of these?
Cougar Uk's webside doesnt seem to be doin much these days.
Tried emailing and ringing the number on there, but no good.
Anyone know how to contact Mr Cougar??
Thanks a lot,
B
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04-04-2013, 07:06 PM
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Live for today, not 2moro
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South Coast
Occupation: Builder/Property Development
Interests: Racing
Boat name: Black Thunder
Boat make: Cougar
Engines: Rude 250HO
Cruising area: Solent/Anywhere
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: South Coast
Posts: 382
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Cougar Marine 01489559549 see if that number helps if not let me know ill send another number via pm...
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04-04-2013, 08:07 PM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,803
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barwar
Hi All,
I've provisionally sold my Cougar to a guy in France.
But he needs a cert to say it was built to EU standards.
Any ideas where I might get one of these?
Cougar Uk's webside doesnt seem to be doin much these days.
Tried emailing and ringing the number on there, but no good.
Anyone know how to contact Mr Cougar??
Thanks a lot,
B
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Bary, I doubt it was CE certified as they were built as race boats, but they may be able to retro certify it. Give me a call, I dont have you no. any more as phone deleted phone book.
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04-04-2013, 08:10 PM
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#4
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Registered User
Boat make: cougar sportcruiser 21ft
Engines: opti 225
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 63
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same with me... 
5 or 6 of mails, never an answer...
and no one on the phone...
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04-04-2013, 09:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 513
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I thought they were no more, ceased trading.
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04-04-2013, 09:55 PM
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Registered User
Country: On Water
Location: Out West
Boat make: Cougar 27
Engines: Mercury Promax 300X
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Out West
Posts: 70
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Thanks Night Nurse.
Alan, I was speaking to the French lad again, he just needs some sort of paperwork for the boat.
Also, anyone know where I'll find a Hull Number/Plate?
Thanks
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04-04-2013, 11:41 PM
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Too many projects.....
Country: UK
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Sunseeker Sales @ Swanwick
Interests: Making things go fast....
Boat name: Top Gun
Boat make: Sunseeker Hawk 27
Engines: 2x Volvo Penta 5.7 V8s
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Warsash
Posts: 221
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Mine had a CE plate in the cockpit underneath the rear bench seat, was very obvious. I have a pic somewhere if it helps.
James
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05-04-2013, 08:08 AM
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Registered User
Boat make: cougar sportcruiser 21ft
Engines: opti 225
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 63
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dont know what is needed, to register a boat in francel...
year built before 1998...there was no CE in Europe...
I made her older ... 
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05-04-2013, 07:13 PM
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Le Cat
Country: France
Location: Paris
Occupation: Computer Sales
Boat name: Le Cat
Boat make: Argo Cat 18
Engines: Mercury 2.4EFI
Cruising area: Paris
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Paris
Posts: 753
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Bar what year was it built ?
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05-04-2013, 11:01 PM
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Registered User
Country: On Water
Location: Out West
Boat make: Cougar 27
Engines: Mercury Promax 300X
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Out West
Posts: 70
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Thanks everyone for your help.
Got sorted with minutes to spare!
Prospective buyer is on ferry from France!
Big thanks to Night Nurse on here
and Pete on the Cougar Facebook page!
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07-04-2013, 11:55 AM
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Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 496
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I believe they were sold as a multi purpose race/sports leisure boat hence the CE approval. I believe mine was manufactured in 2003. I have attached a picture of my CE plate but need to get a new one made, does anyone know who makes these at a reasonable price.
If you find any information about the CE approval for the Cougar I would be very grateful for a copy, however not sure it would still apply to me because it is heavily modified but there again the hull and main structure’s remain unchanged.
More to the point if a boat is taken out of the country I have been lead to believe that is necessary to have a copy of the original VAT bill of sale to show that the VAT has been paid to Customs should I be stopped. Does anyone know anything about this or if I may be able to get a copy.
As for hull identification number, I have been over every inch of the boat and never found one, does anyone know if they were ever numbered?
Look forward to any replies
Regards David
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07-04-2013, 12:01 PM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin
Posts: 1,803
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freddy21
I believe they were sold as a multi purpose race/sports leisure boat hence the CE approval. I believe mine was manufactured in 2003. I have attached a picture of my CE plate but need to get a new one made, does anyone know who makes these at a reasonable price.
If you find any information about the CE approval for the Cougar I would be very grateful for a copy, however not sure it would still apply to me because it is heavily modified but there again the hull and main structure’s remain unchanged.
More to the point if a boat is taken out of the country I have been lead to believe that is necessary to have a copy of the original VAT bill of sale to show that the VAT has been paid to Customs should I be stopped. Does anyone know anything about this or if I may be able to get a copy.
As for hull identification number, I have been over every inch of the boat and never found one, does anyone know if they were ever numbered?
Look forward to any replies
Regards David
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Putting an inboard in a boat certified for an outboard would negate it all anyway! I really wouldnt worry about it too much.
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08-04-2013, 07:54 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Having said that a VAT is only a piece of paper with a VAT number on it. I'm sure a laminated printed CE plate would pass as a temporary thing?
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
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www.bananasharkracing.com
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09-04-2013, 12:13 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Having said that a VAT is only a piece of paper with a VAT number on it. I'm sure a laminated printed CE plate would pass as a temporary thing?
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Hi John
Have you ever been chalanged by forign customs and excise when tacking a boat abroad or asked for an origanal VAT bill of sale to show that the VAT has been paid, or are the only interested in large expencive boats?
Or is this only a problem outside of the EU
Regards
David
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09-04-2013, 12:23 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freddy21
Hi John
Have you ever been chalanged by forign customs and excise when tacking a boat abroad or asked for an origanal VAT bill of sale to show that the VAT has been paid, or are the only interested in large expencive boats?
Or is this only a problem outside of the EU
Regards
David
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I've taken the race boat from England to Italy via France and back via Gib back up to Santander without any issues ever - In my experience customs officers are looking for a piece of paper - I would never suggest you make something up but if you know who built the boat and they don't have any records going that far back or they have ceased trading you're a bit stuck aren't you?
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British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)
www.bananasharkracing.com
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09-04-2013, 02:09 PM
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Registered User
Country: On Water
Location: Out West
Boat make: Cougar 27
Engines: Mercury Promax 300X
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Out West
Posts: 70
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Cougar Logbook
Freddy,
I'll send you on what I got.
Barry
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10-04-2013, 11:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 496
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barwar
Freddy,
I'll send you on what I got.
Barry
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Thanks Barry, PM sent.
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11-04-2013, 08:57 AM
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Registered User
Location: West Coast of Norway
Occupation: naval architect
Interests: surface piercing props, stepped hulls, air entrapment hulls
Boat name: none
Boat make: PetterTintorera
Engines: Yamaha 90
Cruising area: West Coast of Norway
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Coast of Norway
Posts: 888
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marinautic
I thought they were no more, ceased trading.
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When did this happen?
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