Cougar, Scarab or Cigarette

the bandit · 21-10-2006, 11:13 AM

With the wealth of experience on here i ask this question We are possible looking at buying either a Cougar, Scarab or Cigarette boat that is about 10 years old and 38-40 foot long
Which of these would be best suited for RB 2008? ie Bullet Proof. What class would the boat be in? Were not out to win but to have fun.
After the event the boat would be used for Poker Runs, Blade Runs or following the racing

Matt · 21-10-2006, 11:45 AM

Not the scarab

littlenige · 21-10-2006, 12:12 PM

The military have used Cougar before - must be pretty tough bits of kit.

Mike Lloyd · 21-10-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by the bandit
With the wealth of experience on here i ask this question We are possible looking at buying either a Cougar, Scarab or Cigarette boat that is about 10 years old and 38-40 foot long
Which of these would be best suited for RB 2008? ie Bullet Proof. What class would the boat be in? Were not out to win but to have fun.
After the event the boat would be used for Poker Runs, Blade Runs or following the racing

If you keep it under 40ft then you would be running in Class S2 with up to 21,000cc engine capacity. Gives you loads of scope.
Perhaps you should be looking at the secondhand American marketplace. Some good buys out there. Just my opinion of course.

the bandit · 21-10-2006, 03:00 PM

One step ahead. thats where were looking. Problem is my mate wants a Scarab and i've always wanted a Cougar. Thats why i would like some feed back on whats best for this event.
I don't want to trash the revenger and my back.

BluFin · 21-10-2006, 03:21 PM

Cigarette would be my choice with a nice decent set of diesels to #6 drives.......great spending other peoples money

Admiral P. Brain · 21-10-2006, 05:27 PM

yep early nineties Top Gun, with twin hp525's or yanmar 480's, both on No.6 drives.... sweet!!

would prob have to go triples on the above to be competitive though...

sterling · 21-10-2006, 05:33 PM

For the rough the Cougar 38 is great ,build like they did in the old days,solid laminate.
A Larry Smith scarab is also build like that ,very strong ,very good in rough.not be confused with other scarabs.
Cigarette early ones are tough ,and have a solid laminate too.
Go for one off those if you like rough seas.

sterling

the bandit · 21-10-2006, 07:07 PM

Not sure i like rough seas. i just have a sneaky feeling that Round Britian over 10 days there will be some rough sea.
Thanks for the info. Larry Smith Scarabs are built different then to normal. seen a few for sale

Just4Fun · 21-10-2006, 07:38 PM

There's an old Cigarette on ebay. Check out 200037616834.

What about a Fountain ?

SplitPin · 21-10-2006, 08:01 PM

Did anyone find the "Limit Up" that was allegedly sitting in a boatyard in Malta? If it was the 40', that would be ideal for the RB maybe with a couple of sabres or the like. Speaking to Pete Downie at the Motor Boat Museum 20th Anniversary last month, he told me that the 40' had been converted to cabin before the team sold it. Funnily enough he is holidaying there soon.

There's an old Cigarette on ebay. Check out 200037616834.

What about a Fountain ?

That's the one that has been mentioned on other threads. I believe its Tony Toll's of Poco Homes fame.

the bandit · 21-10-2006, 08:16 PM

Just checked it out and we like it. Does any one know the history of this boat or the seller.

Jon Fuller · 21-10-2006, 08:31 PM

Yeah, I know Tony quite well, though TD is a much closer pal, and can probably give a more accurate story of it's history.

It was originally a 'Stagger' setup, and Tony converted it to side by side.

the bandit · 21-10-2006, 08:37 PM

That would be great.

Taz · 21-10-2006, 09:28 PM

There some real nice boats on ebay yankey style!

Black_Tornado · 21-10-2006, 10:04 PM

Please don't put diesel engines in a Cigarette!
It's outrageous!

sterling · 21-10-2006, 11:33 PM

Oh yeeah a pair yanmar 440 ,s into a 38 ft thats one of my dream machines.
don ,t care if its an apache or cig ,fountain cougar..

sterling

Black_Tornado · 22-10-2006, 10:17 AM

Do you dream a Ferrari with a Iveco engine inside?
I know well that the diesel engines are today very progressive and competitive but for certains Items are forbidden.

Tony Davis · 22-10-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by the bandit
Just checked it out and we like it. Does any one know the history of this boat or the seller.

Yeh, I do..

The seller is a pal of mine, and he bought the boat (cigarette mistress) whilst we were having a weekend in Porto Banus with our wives many years ago.

It had sat around in the yard for years, having been built as a toy for the Arab arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, or so the story goes. It had been fitted with a pair of staggered big blocks, and was set up with a three man bolster configuration, same as a race boat, although I don't believe it had ever been raced!

The boat was brought back to Poole, where it was re built by the current owner. It hardly ever get's used, but it's quick, and absolutely awesome in big seas, I've been out in it a few times, great fun.

Tony Davis · 22-10-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by Black_Tornado
Do you dream a Ferrari with a Iveco engine inside?

Probably be a bit more reliable.

I've been having dreams about an Audi with a diesel engine, much like the car that they used to win Le Mans!