Dry Martini

[FLYING FISH]

So no actual moment when it suddenly hit you Jon,and to think a few years earlier and you would have had all those Putney - Calais races on your doorstep.Still you have those kriesky videos to partly make up for it.You know the ones ,yet to be transferred to the multimedia section.(Ouch!)

[Jon Fuller]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

So no actual moment when it suddenly hit you Jon

There's been a good few moments where it suddenly hit me how silly boating is.

[Matt]

I've had a few moments like that, usually just after I get my cheque book out.

[BluFin]

dont happen often then

[Matt]

[BluFin]

your lucky she took my one .... not to be trusted or something like that

[Top Banana]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

3 Dry Martini`s eh Jon.Ummmm!

Dry Martini(1973) - ex Aeromarine IX

Dry Martini (1973) 2 - ex Red Vengence,ex Fino

Dry Martini (1974) 2 - became Yellowdarama III,Crown of Crucis,Colt Sapporo
This is the cowl type canopy which I think was for sale
on south coast.

Dry Martini IV (1974) - ciggy 35 as in thread.David Hagan drove it in U.S. to
gain points for Harmsworth Trophy.

Dry Martini (1979) - cobra 38 (G.Niccolai)

Dry Martini 2 (1979) - picchiotti 38 ex-Alitalia Due,went on to become Ego,
Rothmans Ego,Ouragon,Trussardi.

Dry Martini (1982) - picchiotti 38 ex-Martini Racing,went on to become Ideal
Standard,Cafferel.


I expect `Black Tornado` will be gunning for me if I`ve screwed it up somewhere.
By the way you have a bug in your system Mr.F.Literally! It keeps crawling across JF post 5 and can`t escape.A lifetime spent on a JF post!

The original post was scooped by `Little Nige` 3 yrs ago. What a downer.

Sorry, but the Cobra, was actually a Banana / Coyote that JC Simon and I were making out of the same molds.

I just wanted to get in a correcion before Marco (Black Tornado) comes marching in here.

Great job otherwise!!

[FLYING FISH]

Thanks for your comments Charlie.I will amend my data.Always learning new info to update offshore history.I don`t think our Italian devotee has rumbled it yet.

[TECKNO 40]

We used Kurt Burger to look after D2S or Diesel Dancer as it was during the 1989 worlds at Atlantic City.

[Top Banana]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

Thanks for your comments Charlie.I will amend my data.Always learning new info to update offshore history.I don`t think our Italian devotee has rumbled it yet.

Here is a better shot of the Coyote name on the boat. from what I remember, JC made the boat very light ....too light, and it started to delaminate mid race. The owner wasn't very pleased and that ended that.

If you look at my Top Banana 38, you can see the lines from the deck vent back are the same. Don Aronow always thought that JC's designs, with that pie cake thing on the deck that he lifted from Caliari (sp?) put too much pressure on the forward part of the boat, like a spoiler. He talked me into cutting mine off and making it flat......then he gave me some Cigarette hatches vs the hatches JC ran on Beep Beep.

More Banana / Coyotes on the banana site in the Heritage section.

www.bananaboatco.com

[Pash 1]

Originally Posted by TECKNO 40

We used Kurt Burger to look after D2S or Diesel Dancer as it was during the 1989 worlds at Atlantic City.

Another Name for D2S

[FLYING FISH]

I was in Atlantic City for the 89 Worlds after spending a week at the Alburquere Hot Air Balloon Fiesta (another passion),and there was the boat with Diesel Dancer gobbed on the side in amongst all the flash paint jobs of the U.S. and Italian circuit.You felt like curling up a bit,but the conditions were rough and the old boat gave a good account of herself with two 2nd places in class.Ebel came 1st with two 1st places but with twice the power.
If that had happened today there would have been umpteen class catagories between them.Key West 08 - 14 classes and 55 entries! with joe public keeping track of it.3 classes for Atlantic City (Superboat,OP I,OP II)

[littlenige]

..those were the days, huh gramps?!

Oh to have the cash for that Cig 35!

[Ben]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

I was in Atlantic City for the 89 Worlds

Me too. Only saw the last day's racing though.

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

If that had happened today there would have been umpteen class catagories between them.Key West 08 - 14 classes and 55 entries! with joe public keeping track of it.3 classes for Atlantic City (Superboat,OP I,OP II)

But there were also Pro Stock, Stock and Sportsman A-D classes. Not sure how many entries there were but the parade lap for the UIM and APBA Divisional Classes seemed to go on forever.

[BluFin]

They had a program on the TV over the last few days

"Best TV ads" they had some footage of about 3 of the boats running was a short clip but good

[Black_Tornado]

Here I am late as late as it often happens lately to me in the various forums on the net and marching like a WW I tank,heavy, nothing manouvering and damnedly slow.
Very few corrections for the list of flying fish.
Three really they were the Dry Martini.
If we referring to the Cigarette 36.'
As Richie Powers has confirmed me to the VBV of the 1973 Bonomi raced with the new and lighter 36' that then it is that with the horrible deck and windscreen that it is now found somewhere in England.
In the 1973 Bonomi it had so three 36'. All Dry Martini.
That "old" ex 1972 Aeromarine IX sold then in 1974 and turned into a pleasure boat with modified deck I believe from Caliari considering that it was very similar to that of the Cobra-Coyotes of JC Simon that had worked in the studio of the Italian designer years before.
This 36' it is currently under total restauration in Italy.See the posts of MF in others old threads here on Boatmad.
The third Dry Martini 36' in 1973 it was one of the two old Rautbord's Fino of 1971-72 and that Bonomi purchased before the last two American races of the season 1972 and that for those two runs as Red Vengeance.
Also this 36' it was sold in 1974 and it was modified as pleasure boat. Of this I have lost the traces today.
Then for how much Bonomi the last Dry Martini concerns it was 35' in the 1974.
The giant banker Florentine Guido Niccolai raised the glorious name of Dry Martini in 1978 with his Shead-Picchiotti 38' former Alitalia Due in 1977;more precisely was the "Dry Martini 3."
flying fish; for the worlds in Venice of the 1979 Niccolai also brought a cat in wood and designed-built by Angelo Molinari that called Dry Martini. But the tests pre-race discouraged Niccolai that preferred to race in those flat waters with the old mono 38'. That cat was abandoned and then wrecked.
The 38' was purchased then by Della Valle with which it won the Worlds in England in the 1982 and then others lifes for that you describe correctly.
In the 1979 Niccolai it also felt the experience of a Coyote 38.' I believe the only Coyote in Open 1 sold for the competitions besides the Banana 38' of McCarthy and the various Cobras. Charlie can confirm me or deny in this.
The Coyote arrived in time for the Viareggio-Bastia-Viareggio of that year.Davey Wilson was at the throttles and the sea that day it had a long wave on the course for Bastia frequent thing for that race.
De Angelis made his poker that day with his new 38'CUV and Niccolai was second but the hull delaminated and before but like the cat of Molinari it was abandoned.
The last time that the name Dry Martini has appeared on the sides of a offshore boat in a race it is as you have justly written flying fish; in 1982 with Caesar Fiorio that had noticed the team of Niccolai after this latter had greater problems to resolve with the Italian justice because of his bankruptcy.

[FLYING FISH]

I knew that piece of Martini bait would be snapped up by our Italian friend eventually.Well done Marco for a full diatribe on the Martini`s.For your reference,that 79 Coyote has been fully explained by charlie in post 30.If you ever feel like doing a piece on the CUV boats we could fill up several pages with a post and probably crash the site in the process.

[cfun]

Originally Posted by FLYING FISH

If you ever feel like doing a piece on the CUV boats we could fill up several pages with a post and probably crash the site in the process.

Without hijacking the thread from the Dry Martini boats to CUV boats, perhaps you could explain in brief, as for me and probably quite a few others, it was the CUV's that grabbed my attention in offshore racing back in the 80's

I know Don Shead became involved in boat design very early on from the early CTC days and spawned many incarnations throughout the years and to the trained eye his racing or fast hulls have very similar characteristics from the early ones up to the Revenger's and Sunseeker XPS 34
would I be right in thinking the CUV's were designed for an Italian shipyard to be made only in aluminium as opposed to glass to stop de-lamination and thereby all allu CUV's are Italian made and the rights owned by that shipyard and if so when did the first roll off the production line and how many were made and did they alter the design from the first to the last as they started out at 38' and ended up as Annabella/Follett Cars at 41'

This line here suggests that there were other allu boats made that were like the CUV but not a CUV made by Picchiotti, but to add to the confusion I thought all Della Valle allu boats were CUV's not a Picchiotti or did Piccchiotta own the CUV shipyard ...
Quote ... The giant banker Florentine Guido Niccolai raised the glorious name of Dry Martini in 1978 with his Shead-Picchiotti 38' former Alitalia Due in 1977;more precisely was the "Dry Martini 3."

Or have I got it all wrong

[BluFin]

CUV's / Picchiotti were not the first dabble with Tin for Mr Shead , There were quite a few before the these.

[Black_Tornado]

Originally Posted by BluFin

CUV's / Picchiotti were not the first dabble with Tin for Mr Shead , There were quite a few before the these.

"There were quite a few before the these" and more beautiful I add.
Like the Enfield Avenger-Unowot for example....