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11-10-2010, 05:43 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
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face ripple
can you imagine this powering down Southampton water on a very calm day wouldn't want to come across a wash though
the guy in the passenger seat gets the ole face ripple and no life jackets, think I would have wanted a padded suit to go out in this even if it was a lake
this is where my love of boats finishes and fear starts
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11-10-2010, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfun
can you imagine this powering down Southampton water on a very calm day wouldn't want to come across a wash though
the guy in the passenger seat gets the ole face ripple and no life jackets, think I would have wanted a padded suit to go out in this even if it was a lake
this is where my love of boats finishes and fear starts
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sweet jesus reminds me of them chavy kids on them scooters with just a pair of shorts on...10/10 for cool factor but getting spat out at that speed.. OUCH!!!!!
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11-10-2010, 07:22 PM
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JORDANIEL
Country: ENGLAND
Location: WEST MIDLANDS
Occupation: paying my kids bills
Interests: BOATS,MOTORCROSS,JET SKIS AND BEER LOTS OF BEER
Boat name: SIDEWINDER
Boat make: PHANTOM 20
Engines: XR2 MERCURY
Cruising area: BARMOUTH
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11-10-2010, 08:20 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
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Engines: Turbines mainly!
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Why don't people use v drives over here? Are they flat water only? Seems to be going well!
James
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11-10-2010, 08:31 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: London
Occupation: Land Rover Specialist.
Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
Boat make: Nelson 40
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Cruising area: Solent
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Very envious of the location,the weather.lots of warmth on the old bones.
Oh the boat supose its alright,I know they never had a jacket helmet or any other stuff,but i kinda like that,imagine just looking out at that view from your house and saying lets go for a spin,and just doin it,gets my vote,
Lake widermere it aint,mind you thats buggered up now 10mph.
I would like to take it through Chichester harbour flat out and explain to the majistrate i was just getting my 120 quids worth the harbour authority has charged me for 7 month harbour dues,thievin sods,Christ it spends most of its time out of the water. What was the left pedal for ,tabs or something.?
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11-10-2010, 08:33 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
Why don't people use v drives over here? Are they flat water only? Seems to be going well!
James
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Gee has V drives.
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11-10-2010, 10:36 PM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Catweazle
What was the left pedal for ,tabs or something.?
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Adjustable cav plate.
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11-10-2010, 10:54 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
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Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
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Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Adjustable cav plate.
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i asume thats as in cavataion,can you enlarge on the system,cheers CW.
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11-10-2010, 11:15 PM
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Registered User
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Simplest explanation would be a full width trim tab, that you normally set by a hand control, but can be over ridden by a foot control if you need to get the bow down quickly.
Used on V drive boats as the "drive" isn't trimmable.
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12-10-2010, 08:56 AM
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Registered User
Country: U.K.
Location: Sarf London
Occupation: Consulting Engineer
Interests: President AYC
Boat make: Ring
Engines: Merc 2.5
Cruising area: Allhallows YC - Thames Estuary
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Clip comes from US website www.riverdavesplace.com. Well worth a check-out
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12-10-2010, 10:32 AM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
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I believe the boat is 21' like a phantom however it has 1300hp and topped out around 114mph like I said before think I might need some rubber diapers before he took me out for a blaaaast in that only in the USA and at the rate of speed that engine would consume fuel it would be a very short spin if it was over here
PS ... Larby that's the sort of motor ye need in that Revenger
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12-10-2010, 11:11 AM
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Ha ha, I'd love to, doubt it'd help my concerns over the bravo though!
hat was what inspired me to ask about the v drives. You see simple shaft drives in older boats, but (other than gee) I've never seen a v drive in a modern offshore boat, even though the yanks seem to love em. Nice and simple and not much to break.
There must be a reason why they're not used, so any idea what it is?
James
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12-10-2010, 07:59 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: London
Occupation: Land Rover Specialist.
Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
Boat make: Nelson 40
Engines: Cats 800 hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis
Simplest explanation would be a full width trim tab, that you normally set by a hand control, but can be over ridden by a foot control if you need to get the bow down quickly.
Used on V drive boats as the "drive" isn't trimmable.
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Cheers ,v drive as fitted to Gee.
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12-10-2010, 08:14 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Eastbourne
Occupation: Auto Gearbox Repair shop owner
Interests: Old motor boats & old aircraft
Boat name: Pisces
Boat make: 1970 Stapely Falcon 17'
Engines: Merc 115 1984
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larby
Ha ha, I'd love to, doubt it'd help my concerns over the bravo though!
hat was what inspired me to ask about the v drives. You see simple shaft drives in older boats, but (other than gee) I've never seen a v drive in a modern offshore boat, even though the yanks seem to love em. Nice and simple and not much to break.
There must be a reason why they're not used, so any idea what it is?
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I am no expert but I would have though the lack of trimming plus there will be a power loss going through the drive would count against them. How much power is lost I don't know but you want to minimise all power losses. Quite why the shermans use them & we don't really I don't know.
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12-10-2010, 09:18 PM
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Can't be any worse than a stern drive though surely? So far we've just got lack of trimming, which can be partially sorted with a set of tabs.
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12-10-2010, 10:55 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: London
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Interests: Boats military vehicles
Boat name: HORATIA
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V drive v sterndrive
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13-10-2010, 06:40 AM
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There we go then! Thanks for that CW!
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13-10-2010, 11:10 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Eastbourne
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Boat name: Pisces
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Interesting article, obvious really when you think about it
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13-10-2010, 10:29 PM
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Registered User
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Interests: Boats military vehicles
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Yet more v drive imfo.
Interesting to note they put the average hourly use at only 50 per year and a a large lump of that at idle.Makes the fuel difference very little.i have to admit a bit dissapointed in the V drive as i have never liked all that ally hanging on the back.now we know why gee is so slow LOL sorry Biff/Chris .
http://www.searay.com/boat_graphics/...2491/TST_9.pdf
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13-10-2010, 10:50 PM
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Registered User
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Boat name: HORATIA
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Talks a good talk
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