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03-11-2008, 07:18 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ciao!
Yep a FB 55' measures under, I remember that when FB entered Blue FPT.
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Where as the dodgy beak on the Bandit is rather more dubious! (see UIM measurement details)
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03-11-2008, 07:20 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
Cruising area: bournemouth bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Where as the dodgy beak on the Bandit is rather more dubious! (see UIM measurement details)
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03-11-2008, 07:26 PM
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Registered User
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Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ciao!
Yep a FB 55' measures under, I remember that when FB entered Blue FPT.
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OI stop it you guys my avatar is 55' nuff said and not an inch shorter
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03-11-2008, 07:33 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfun
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Just pointing out that people in glass houses...........
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03-11-2008, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfun
Sounds like one hell of a day to remember and something to show in ye scrap book, as Carl said that Virgin vessel is a good looker
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Crazy day really. I was working in the City.
I heard that Branson and the Virgin Challenger were going to do their stuff on the Thames.
I was trading LME Futures in those days, and rather than ask my boss for a "pass" all afternoon, I invited him along.
Branson put a "huge" spread on in a large boat moored next to Virgin Challenger.
Was good fun!
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03-11-2008, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Just pointing out that people in glass houses...........
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Will never get an invite to Como?
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03-11-2008, 07:52 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ciao!
Will never get an invite to Como?
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Dunno about that, but if my boat got into a race by the skin of it's teeth, I don't think I'd raise the very same rule area when knocking someone who, as it happens, not only won overall, but did it completely within the rules.
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03-11-2008, 07:54 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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The Gentry looks like a Levi, and Destriero looks like an ex fast naval/military style hull.
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03-11-2008, 07:56 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: poole
Occupation: retail
Interests: sport and being lazy
Boat make: ring rib
Engines: merc xr2
Cruising area: bournemouth bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ciao!
Will never get an invite to Como?
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Now that would be a Boatmaders bus man's holiday, quick someone arrange a boatmad Como?Buzzi factory tour to see over the great man himselfs achievements
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03-11-2008, 08:06 PM
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Serious Post.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Dunno about that, but if my boat got into a race by the skin of it's teeth, I don't think I'd raise the very same rule area when knocking someone who, as it happens, not only won overall, but did it completely within the rules.
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Serious Post.
Jon, I understand that you are going to see FB in the next couple of weeks.
Our rules, hull lengths, engine sizes etc. will need to be clarified.
The UK sport has missed Tony Needell - it needs someone like you with your knowledge.
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03-11-2008, 08:11 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ciao!
Serious Post.
Jon, I understand that you are going to see FB in the next couple of weeks.
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Well yes, but I'm just Mike Lloyds porter.
"carry ya bag sir?"
We'll be doing a report on here with some pics etc on our return.
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03-11-2008, 08:16 PM
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timtap
Country: England
Location: Paignton Devon
Occupation: Ex Marine Engineer , Licencee
Interests: Photography, Real Ale .
Boat name: Shooters Too
Boat make: Scarab 22SC
Engines: Mercruiser 270hp
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Does anyone remember Cougar making a secret project called Pegasus some years ago ? It was designed to do some amazing speed but it semed to have disappeared off to America never to be seen again !!!
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03-11-2008, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Actually, it isn't. it measures 49' hull length and the bustle / drives are not included in UIM measured length (as apposed to LOA)
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Why put 55' foot on it then. I suppose the owner boasts he has a 10" co%*
Still had 3 engines or was one a reserve
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03-11-2008, 08:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Where as the dodgy beak on the Bandit is rather more dubious! (see UIM measurement details)
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Yea but we made the boat longer to go up a class. Most boats want to go down unless they want to over power a small boat and as it proved we never were as the boat handled the rough water much better than the larger ribs. Ask James he saw us past him in the Goldfish.
The boat measures over 33' foot without the beak extension ( it was to spear the opposition ) the rear mods on the transom made up the length and that was made to the rules ie it extends to the hull. remember the boat had a 6% transom angle no good for our drives.
Bt the way you ain't got any short legs we could borrow
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03-11-2008, 08:30 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hunton69
Why put 55' foot on it then. I suppose the owner boasts he has a 10" co%*
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hardly unusual, have you looked at the Fountain range of boats, I reckon their 27 footer is about a 23 if you lose the beak & the bathing platform.
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Originally Posted by hunton69
Still had 3 engines or was one a reserve
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This is true, and just as yours had two, for it's class it was perfectly legal.
In fact, it could have had four if he so desired.
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03-11-2008, 08:32 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hunton69
Bt the way you ain't got any short legs we could borrow
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I haven't, but Nick has, you'll have to speak to him.
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03-11-2008, 08:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
Dunno about that, but if my boat got into a race by the skin of it's teeth, I don't think I'd raise the very same rule area when knocking someone who, as it happens, not only won overall, but did it completely within the rules.
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Do you know the length of the Hunton
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03-11-2008, 08:38 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
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Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hunton69
Do you know the length of the Hunton
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No, I've not measured it, but am aware that it struggled to meet minimum length.
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03-11-2008, 11:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
The Gentry looks like a Levi, and Destriero looks like an ex fast naval/military style hull.
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- Not sure about that, but Virgin Atlantic Challenger II was unmistakeably a Levi design and featured his own 'Levi Drive Unit' which gave 50 knots from twin 2000 HP MTU's - not too shabby considering they were pushing 72ft and 37 tons!
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04-11-2008, 12:42 AM
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timtap
Country: England
Location: Paignton Devon
Occupation: Ex Marine Engineer , Licencee
Interests: Photography, Real Ale .
Boat name: Shooters Too
Boat make: Scarab 22SC
Engines: Mercruiser 270hp
Cruising area: South West
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Paignton Devon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller
The Gentry looks like a Levi, and Destriero looks like an ex fast naval/military style hull.
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Gentry was a Vosper Thornycroft built boat designed by Peter Birkett and powered with 2 MTU engines pushing 3480 hp each through Kamai Jets and a third 4500hp Lycoming gas turbine coupled to a Arneson surface drive with a 35" five blade cleaver (Raised when not in use)
Fuel capacity nearly 10000 gallons
112 fet and 88 tons
It would have been an impressive site if all three superboats could have played together !!!
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