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16-10-2013, 03:32 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Location: Stockholm
Boat make: Aquarius AquaCat
Engines: Tohatsu 50hp
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 24
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Information about my boat (Cougar 27)
Hi!
I'm looking for more information about my boat, pictures, performance, engines and so on.
I'm not trying to hang anyone! So far I am very happy with it!
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16-10-2013, 03:47 PM
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Registered User
Country: USA & UK
Location: Orlando & Netley
Occupation: Workshop cleaner
Interests: beer and boats
Boat make: Cougar
Cruising area: The Solent
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Orlando & Netley
Posts: 124
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Looks like the old Claygate boat, this was the original boat built for Honda for the 2001 boat show
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16-10-2013, 05:41 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Location: Stockholm
Boat make: Aquarius AquaCat
Engines: Tohatsu 50hp
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 24
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So you do not think it is Cider Daze 2? Number 29?
The cockpit has the original red gel coat. The rest of the boat is repainted.
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16-10-2013, 05:47 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: surrey
Engines: none at the mo
Cruising area: south coast
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: surrey
Posts: 472
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cougar
Quote:
Originally Posted by thomasf
So you do not think it is Cider Daze 2? Number 29?
The cockpit has the original red gel coat. The rest of the boat is repainted.
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cool pic close racing or what
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16-10-2013, 06:18 PM
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Registered User
Country: USA & UK
Location: Orlando & Netley
Occupation: Workshop cleaner
Interests: beer and boats
Boat make: Cougar
Cruising area: The Solent
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Orlando & Netley
Posts: 124
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This boat was originally built for Honda and raced as Honda Racing in 2003, it was used by Jack Glendenning for most of that year when he rolled his SportRacer down the A34 when on route to Wales, Jack then purchased the boat from Honda and raced it as WarmUp, Stop Box and Claygate. Not sure who he sold it to
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16-10-2013, 06:20 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Laandan meyt
Occupation: R&D Projects Director
Interests: Racing Boats? Building Superyachts.
Boat name: Atlantic Challenger
Boat make: 1 x Honda 27ft race - 1x 17m Challenge prototype
Engines: 225 - tickled. Force Rotax 500 hp x 4
Cruising area: All of UK
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Laandan meyt
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deepvee
cool pic close racing or what
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Its not the 1st Cider Daze as I had that (the orange boat) - the red cider daze was Buildbase (then the Delmar Group boat was loaned as Buildbase after the red one retired)
Looks like Claygate but then it could also be the late Will Knockers Fatboy Racing (deep purple colour).
Looks like it did some of the P1 Superstock rounds with the orange nose.
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16-10-2013, 06:23 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: london
Occupation: Powerboat Skipper
Interests: Boats , bikes!
Boat name: Renegade
Boat make: GPV-RENEGADE
Engines: 150 HO etec
Cruising area: Thames, south coast, anywhere!
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: london
Posts: 2,327
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deepvee
cool pic close racing or what
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They got a lot closer than that! A lot lol
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16-10-2013, 06:32 PM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,283
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I liked the double decker one
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16-10-2013, 06:39 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Location: Stockholm
Boat make: Aquarius AquaCat
Engines: Tohatsu 50hp
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 24
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Thank you! Did he have any accidents with it?
Do anybody know how fast these boats are with 300hp?
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16-10-2013, 08:06 PM
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Too many projects.....
Country: UK
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Sunseeker Sales @ Swanwick
Interests: Making things go fast....
Boat name: Top Gun
Boat make: Sunseeker Hawk 27
Engines: 2x Volvo Penta 5.7 V8s
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Warsash
Posts: 221
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I bought this as a bare boat off a guy in Portsmouth last year and then sold it it a couple of months later to another guy in Portsmouth as my cat was costing more than I budgeted to get finished.
Looked at lots and this seemed damage free and well put together when you really started digging under the decks etc.
As you say the cockpit is original (pinkish) colour gel, underside is black and looks original. The actual hull has been painted but not sure what the original colour was. We did some investigating but never managed to work out what boat number it was - I thought it was the airwaves boat which Pete has just confirmed.
James
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16-10-2013, 10:09 PM
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Registered User
Country: Germany
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 320
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PJC
Looks like the old Claygate boat, this was the original boat built for Honda for the 2001 boat show
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This one :
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16-10-2013, 10:54 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Coventry (but from Lee on Solent)
Occupation: Sales Director
Interests: My Boat of course
Boat make: Extreme 21
Engines: Merc V8
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Coventry (but from Lee on Solent)
Posts: 587
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This one is not the boat that was raced most recently as claygate. The old claygate boat is elsewhere.
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17-10-2013, 09:09 PM
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Registered User
Country: Uk, sometimes Dubai
Location: Newmarket, Suffolk
Occupation: Racehorse Exercise Rider
Interests: Powerboating, Squash, Running, Horseracing
Boat name: FAT BOY
Boat make: Cougar 27'
Engines: EVINRUDE G2 300
Cruising area: Orwell, Harwich, East Coast
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Newmarket, Suffolk
Posts: 244
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Cougar 27
Just to let you all know that i have the ex Will Knocker race boat FatBoy
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18-10-2013, 01:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PJC
This boat was originally built for Honda and raced as Honda Racing in 2003, it was used by Jack Glendenning for most of that year when he rolled his SportRacer down the A34 when on route to Wales, Jack then purchased the boat from Honda and raced it as WarmUp, Stop Box and Claygate. Not sure who he sold it to
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Would you know the history of mine and what year it was built. As far back as I can trace it, it seems to have been Honda with the union jack, then Honda was removed and replaced by Buildbase. Then painted red as Buildbase, but cant find any information before that. Or did it start as the red Honda boat above?
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18-10-2013, 12:12 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Location: Stockholm
Boat make: Aquarius AquaCat
Engines: Tohatsu 50hp
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Stockholm
Posts: 24
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Is there anything special I should think about when I'm driving the boat?
It seems like there is a risk that the boat rolls over if one makes an too tight corner at too high speed. (But what difference is that from any other boat?)
I've raced deep v hulls before and catamarans (Thundercat)
Also people are talking about high center of gravity, so should I consider shorten my 300X to 15"?
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21-10-2013, 08:22 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,633
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thomasf
Is there anything special I should think about when I'm driving the boat?
It seems like there is a risk that the boat rolls over if one makes an too tight corner at too high speed. (But what difference is that from any other boat?)
I've raced deep v hulls before and catamarans (Thundercat)
Also people are talking about high center of gravity, so should I consider shorten my 300X to 15"?
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Yes shorten the leg to 15" ASAP!
These boats had a reputation for rolling with the Honda 225's but the Merc lower centre of gravity with a 15" leg will help a lot.
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21-10-2013, 09:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
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John is rite, keeping the C of G as low as possible will help. Also if you are not circuit racing and taking corners flat out this will help too.
I can't comment from personal experience as I have not had mine in the water yet, but I have spoken to a lot of people about this subject
There is a link below where you will find a post from Paul C with other reasons they rolled over.
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....ght=cougar+225
Reasons for Honda 225 roll overs:
1. Broken saddles
2. Broken engine mounts
3. Broken steering hydraulics
4. Turning tight and too hard at high speed
5. Collision with another boat
6. Lack of 225 experience
7. Driving like a ****
8. Trim failure & driving it like a 150 (That was me driving like a **** with lack of experience).
9. Trying to stay up with modified boats some 4+ mph faster. Then suffering from a seized gearbox. (That was also me but did pass twice before going over).
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21-10-2013, 10:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freddy21
Would you know the history of mine and what year it was built. As far back as I can trace it, it seems to have been Honda with the union jack, then Honda was removed and replaced by Buildbase. Then painted red as Buildbase, but cant find any information before that. Or did it start as the red Honda boat above?
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You are correct – that was the Honda PR boat for 2004, I can’t recall it being around before then. I drove it at the end of 04 on Windermere, then in the hands of it’s new owner who eventually sold it to you. It was one of the unmolested ones that usually finished in the middle of the pack.
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21-10-2013, 10:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thomasf
Is there anything special I should think about when I'm driving the boat?
It seems like there is a risk that the boat rolls over if one makes an too tight corner at too high speed. (But what difference is that from any other boat?)
I've raced deep v hulls before and catamarans (Thundercat)
Also people are talking about high center of gravity, so should I consider shorten my 300X to 15"?
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I’ve raced one in the series Honda and driven one in Norway with a 300xs with a lifter and reached 85mph. The engine was later modified and fitted with a 15’’ mid and now does 90mph but still rolled! My advise would be don’t be paranoid with top speed! Keep the engine down low with the prop deep in the water and take full advantage of it’s rough weather capability as that is what is was designed for. Yours should comfortably do 75mph – be happy with that, any faster and you simply increase the risk of killing yourself. Avoid rapid change of direction, fast tight turns and racing and it will be the best sports boat you will ever own.
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21-10-2013, 08:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Docta
This one is not the boat that was raced most recently as claygate. The old claygate boat is elsewhere.
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So is mine the old claygate boat as stated above by PJC
"This boat was originally built for Honda and raced as Honda Racing in 2003, it was used by Jack Glendenning for most of that year when he rolled his SportRacer down the A34 when on route to Wales, Jack then purchased the boat from Honda and raced it as WarmUp, Stop Box and Claygate. Not sure who he sold it to"
And was it my one that was rolled on the A34? Not that it matter just would like to get to the bottom of the history behind it for providence.
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