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Old 16-10-2013, 03:32 PM   #1
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Information about my boat (Cougar 27)

Hi!

I'm looking for more information about my boat, pictures, performance, engines and so on.

I'm not trying to hang anyone! So far I am very happy with it!
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Old 16-10-2013, 03:47 PM   #2
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Looks like the old Claygate boat, this was the original boat built for Honda for the 2001 boat show
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Old 16-10-2013, 05:41 PM   #3
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So you do not think it is Cider Daze 2? Number 29?

The cockpit has the original red gel coat. The rest of the boat is repainted.
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Old 16-10-2013, 05:47 PM   #4
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So you do not think it is Cider Daze 2? Number 29?

The cockpit has the original red gel coat. The rest of the boat is repainted.
cool pic close racing or what
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Old 16-10-2013, 06:18 PM   #5
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This boat was originally built for Honda and raced as Honda Racing in 2003, it was used by Jack Glendenning for most of that year when he rolled his SportRacer down the A34 when on route to Wales, Jack then purchased the boat from Honda and raced it as WarmUp, Stop Box and Claygate. Not sure who he sold it to
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Old 16-10-2013, 06:20 PM   #6
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cool pic close racing or what
Its not the 1st Cider Daze as I had that (the orange boat) - the red cider daze was Buildbase (then the Delmar Group boat was loaned as Buildbase after the red one retired)
Looks like Claygate but then it could also be the late Will Knockers Fatboy Racing (deep purple colour).
Looks like it did some of the P1 Superstock rounds with the orange nose.
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Old 16-10-2013, 06:23 PM   #7
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They got a lot closer than that! A lot lol
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Old 16-10-2013, 06:32 PM   #8
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I liked the double decker one
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Old 16-10-2013, 06:39 PM   #9
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Thank you! Did he have any accidents with it?

Do anybody know how fast these boats are with 300hp?
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Old 16-10-2013, 08:06 PM   #10
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I bought this as a bare boat off a guy in Portsmouth last year and then sold it it a couple of months later to another guy in Portsmouth as my cat was costing more than I budgeted to get finished.

Looked at lots and this seemed damage free and well put together when you really started digging under the decks etc.

As you say the cockpit is original (pinkish) colour gel, underside is black and looks original. The actual hull has been painted but not sure what the original colour was. We did some investigating but never managed to work out what boat number it was - I thought it was the airwaves boat which Pete has just confirmed.

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Old 16-10-2013, 10:09 PM   #11
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Looks like the old Claygate boat, this was the original boat built for Honda for the 2001 boat show
This one :

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This one is not the boat that was raced most recently as claygate. The old claygate boat is elsewhere.
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Just to let you all know that i have the ex Will Knocker race boat FatBoy
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Old 18-10-2013, 01:23 AM   #14
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This boat was originally built for Honda and raced as Honda Racing in 2003, it was used by Jack Glendenning for most of that year when he rolled his SportRacer down the A34 when on route to Wales, Jack then purchased the boat from Honda and raced it as WarmUp, Stop Box and Claygate. Not sure who he sold it to
Would you know the history of mine and what year it was built. As far back as I can trace it, it seems to have been Honda with the union jack, then Honda was removed and replaced by Buildbase. Then painted red as Buildbase, but cant find any information before that. Or did it start as the red Honda boat above?
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Old 18-10-2013, 12:12 PM   #15
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Is there anything special I should think about when I'm driving the boat?
It seems like there is a risk that the boat rolls over if one makes an too tight corner at too high speed. (But what difference is that from any other boat?)

I've raced deep v hulls before and catamarans (Thundercat)

Also people are talking about high center of gravity, so should I consider shorten my 300X to 15"?
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Is there anything special I should think about when I'm driving the boat?
It seems like there is a risk that the boat rolls over if one makes an too tight corner at too high speed. (But what difference is that from any other boat?)

I've raced deep v hulls before and catamarans (Thundercat)

Also people are talking about high center of gravity, so should I consider shorten my 300X to 15"?

Yes shorten the leg to 15" ASAP!

These boats had a reputation for rolling with the Honda 225's but the Merc lower centre of gravity with a 15" leg will help a lot.
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John is rite, keeping the C of G as low as possible will help. Also if you are not circuit racing and taking corners flat out this will help too.

I can't comment from personal experience as I have not had mine in the water yet, but I have spoken to a lot of people about this subject

There is a link below where you will find a post from Paul C with other reasons they rolled over.

http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....ght=cougar+225

Reasons for Honda 225 roll overs:
1. Broken saddles
2. Broken engine mounts
3. Broken steering hydraulics
4. Turning tight and too hard at high speed
5. Collision with another boat
6. Lack of 225 experience
7. Driving like a ****
8. Trim failure & driving it like a 150 (That was me driving like a **** with lack of experience).
9. Trying to stay up with modified boats some 4+ mph faster. Then suffering from a seized gearbox. (That was also me but did pass twice before going over).
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Old 21-10-2013, 10:08 AM   #18
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Would you know the history of mine and what year it was built. As far back as I can trace it, it seems to have been Honda with the union jack, then Honda was removed and replaced by Buildbase. Then painted red as Buildbase, but cant find any information before that. Or did it start as the red Honda boat above?
You are correct Ė that was the Honda PR boat for 2004, I canít recall it being around before then. I drove it at the end of 04 on Windermere, then in the hands of itís new owner who eventually sold it to you. It was one of the unmolested ones that usually finished in the middle of the pack.
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Is there anything special I should think about when I'm driving the boat?
It seems like there is a risk that the boat rolls over if one makes an too tight corner at too high speed. (But what difference is that from any other boat?)

I've raced deep v hulls before and catamarans (Thundercat)

Also people are talking about high center of gravity, so should I consider shorten my 300X to 15"?
Iíve raced one in the series Honda and driven one in Norway with a 300xs with a lifter and reached 85mph. The engine was later modified and fitted with a 15íí mid and now does 90mph but still rolled! My advise would be donít be paranoid with top speed! Keep the engine down low with the prop deep in the water and take full advantage of itís rough weather capability as that is what is was designed for. Yours should comfortably do 75mph Ė be happy with that, any faster and you simply increase the risk of killing yourself. Avoid rapid change of direction, fast tight turns and racing and it will be the best sports boat you will ever own.
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Old 21-10-2013, 08:07 PM   #20
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This one is not the boat that was raced most recently as claygate. The old claygate boat is elsewhere.
So is mine the old claygate boat as stated above by PJC

"This boat was originally built for Honda and raced as Honda Racing in 2003, it was used by Jack Glendenning for most of that year when he rolled his SportRacer down the A34 when on route to Wales, Jack then purchased the boat from Honda and raced it as WarmUp, Stop Box and Claygate. Not sure who he sold it to"

And was it my one that was rolled on the A34? Not that it matter just would like to get to the bottom of the history behind it for providence.
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