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Old 20-10-2015, 09:31 PM   #1
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New boat, new challenges.

Currently rigging my new raceboat, a all Carbon Frodé 23R.
The 200XS will be pushing her sweet ass, hopefully quicker than the Phantom did.



Some old pics when we poped her out of the mould, and a simular one currently racing in Sweden but with a 150.
Hopefully will get a testdrive before the winter hits us.
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Old 20-10-2015, 09:56 PM   #2
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frodé 23 race

Nice race boat this one!
Do you have the weight of the regular and of the carbon version, bare hull deck?
do you have the performance goal with the 200xs gen2 I guess?
Are you going to use the 15'' mid on the carbon one?
what propeller this frodé 23 likes?

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Old 20-10-2015, 10:40 PM   #3
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Thank you!
When Mikael Frodé made his a long time ago, they weight 420kg bare hull/deck. Mine weighs 265kg and is 2 Times Stronger according to the calculations the guys at KTH made, the royal institue of science. We aim for a topspeed of over 73knots and good driveabillity in the rough. Yes, Its a gen 2 200XS but according to our rules here in Sweden, we are not
Allowed to use the 15" leg nor the offshore 20" leg.
So I use a normal 20" with solid mounts.
What works best with the 150hp Frodé 23 is Rakers, Solas Scorpion, Fury. Gonna start with those.
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Old 20-10-2015, 11:23 PM   #4
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frodé 23 race

265kg! you mean hull and deck unless seats, gas tank, sterring, even without that it's really a light boat!
Do you have some foam inside? or it's a pure carbon fiber hull? for the transom do you use Hi density foam, or std marine ply?
carbon make some stiff and light boat but after years of race punishment, can they become brittle and distroy suddently?
Do you have picture of the inside hull?
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Old 21-10-2015, 08:00 PM   #5
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265 is with ballast tank, the "floors" for the seats and my feet. It´s pure carbon with some divnicell in the deck and the sides but not much, a 15cm wide string that goes from the back roughly 2.5-3m forward. Same in both the deck and sides. The transom is also carbon with plywood core ( I think, gonna drill the holes soon and then I will find out )
Time will tell but even tho she is light, she is oversized in the speccs compared to the other carbon boats the builder have made!
Just got home from some time with the boat but forgot to take any good pics of the inside. Will post some later!
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Old 01-11-2015, 07:41 PM   #6
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The work goes on. Even tho I have been working nonstop building Dahl naval Rib´s (that is what pays the bills) I have managed to get some work done on my canoe.

Skidplate is made in Carbon, made my own seats, a friend of mine made the fueltank, had to make some supports for it. You can also see the intakes for the air that goes on the pad. The liftingpoints in the rear is also in place.
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Old 01-11-2015, 07:46 PM   #7
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One more of the liftingpoints in the rear.
The seats are done, had to do some hardcore throtteling in the garage, of course
Took her outside today cus I had to move around some stuff. Even tho I think my Phantom (And Phantoms in general) are the best looking boats there is, the lines of the Frodé is starting to grow on me, I like it alot
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The work goes on!

The skidplate just needs 4 bolts then it´s ready. (Vacuminfuesed Carbon/divnicell and Vinylester)
Bowtank, the whole 165 liters of it is just waiting for some hoses.
Made a bracket for my Codrivers GPS as well.
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Frode 23

I made about five Frode 23 in England with Mikael's moulds and help in 1992 and they were great boats. You have to be really committed in a following sea; just keep the power on and they recover well. We fitted aluminium rails on the chines for the really rough water racing.
I had one with side by side seating as opposed to the tandem that everyone else uses, i actually though that it was a better balanced boat.
Yours looks a really nice job: nice to see a new Frode coming out!
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This was the one that I raced in Cowes one year.
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frodé

I remember this one, C68 Hot Shot, driver SODERLIND Mickael back, Sweden, in 1996.
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I made about five Frode 23 in England with Mikael's moulds and help in 1992 and they were great boats. You have to be really committed in a following sea; just keep the power on and they recover well. We fitted aluminium rails on the chines for the really rough water racing.
I had one with side by side seating as opposed to the tandem that everyone else uses, i actually though that it was a better balanced boat.
Yours looks a really nice job: nice to see a new Frode coming out!
Simon
Hello Simon and Thank you for your kind words :-)

I have the rails as well in the front, think you can see them on a picture. Michael told me about the following Sea. "Keep your foot down, boy!" Was his choice of words
He have made some modifications on the hull after you build them, to make it abit faster in the flat.
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This was the one that I raced in Cowes one year.
Epic picture for sure! Mind if I use it on my FB page?
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I remember this one, C68 Hot Shot, driver SODERLIND Mickael back, Sweden, in 1996.
Ahh yes. I know Michael Söderlind quite well but his son even more, Wille. Wille won the world Championship in the 3A class this year. Even tho he is only 18 y/o he is one hell of a driver!
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Because the transom of the Frodé is made for 15" legs and/or 20" legs with a lifter I had to make a aluminum "bracket" to make the transom high enough for the engine. I dont want any more setback cus of the notch. So today I had the plesaure of drilling holes in my lovely transom. Felt kinda bad for doing so but I had to didnt I?
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Thanks James

Working on the boat, buisness as usual. The engine goes on tomorrow, then I can start making holes for the steering and rigging hoses. Looks better with some black magic in the back as well

(The steeringhelm are going to have some new bolts, these ones look shit.)
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Yepp! Couldnt choose the position of the gauges but I was lucky
Can see them quite good!
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