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Old 09-03-2007, 12:55 PM   #1
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Phantom 25?

Can someone confirm the identity of this boat for me please?

25' Long. Sorry about the picture quality (Phone pics).
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Old 09-03-2007, 12:59 PM   #2
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Phantom 25 and it appears to be a genuine one. Steve used extruded ali deck stiffeners quite a bit in the 80s, mainly on racing boats. It's actually the toe rail extrusion used on sailing boat gunnels.

Is there a HIN on the right side of the transom? if so, what is it?
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:01 PM   #3
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Where abouts should the HIN be Jon? And what are the 25's like? When i look at it next, what should i look out for?
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If it's the same as P21's it'll be just below the bump strip on the driver's side of the transom. There's a "sticky" thread in the Technical Q&A Section which will allow you to decipher the HIN and find the boats age.
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Thanks Max,

Im gonna nip down after dark and see if i can get the Number off it.
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OK, from what i can see through the 'lovely' white paintjob the HIN reads 07 02 04.

What does that tell anybody?
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you sure it's not 87 02 04
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It could be Jon.

As i said, its been painted white so the numbers are not so easy to read but having had a closer look i think it is 87 02 04 and it was originally Red.

Any idea of its history Jon?
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Old 09-03-2007, 07:06 PM   #9
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EEEK it looks like Drivers ................
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???

What do you mean, Drivers Wharf?
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It could be Jon.


Any idea of its history Jon?
No, sorry, no history. so we now think it's a February '87 build.

Are there any signs that it may have had twin motors in the past? It has a few halmarks of being a 4 litre class III boat, ie, the ali deck rails, engine well cowling etc, which would have most likely had a pair of 150s/XR2's back then. Some were built with single V8 Johnnyrudes, but not many, and I don't *think* any raced like that, mebbe Johnny Blufin could fill in there.
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Unless its had the transom done in the past it appears to have had a single installation.

However, heres a pic of the dash. How many Rev Counters do you see?
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:43 PM   #13
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How many Rev Counters do you see?
How odd!

No doubt an equally odd story to go with it.

She looks a little 'tired'.
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Johnny Blufin could fill in there.
Having a think now if red is the gel. up to 87 the only IID red one was london & manchester but that was a lot earlier on the HIN number. unless it was a ski rig, thought pretty much of the non tandum decks were white or black very few reds side by side.

Drivers Whalf Yeh a little bit like it..................................
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north east water sports ,dave well stead /pete ormrod took a p25 out to gulf in 86/87with 2x mod vps.boat was white with emerate colours geled in,never came back,
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Thats interesting, it may be the same one. That would explain why the gelcoat is red at the rear.

The UAE Flag is Red, Green, White & Black.
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north east water sports ,dave well stead /pete ormrod took a p25 out to gulf in 86/87with 2x mod vps.boat was white with emerate colours geled in,never came back,
why would they leave a good rig? unless forced
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Even more interesting are those 3 rev counters shown on the interior picture ?? Yet only 1 set of engine mount holes on the first pics ????

Sorry did not see that the rev counters had already been commented on
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why would they leave a good rig? unless forced
They probably sold it out there.

It used to be very common for the Yanks to bring boats over here, to race at the Needles & Cowes races, or in Europe, then sell them here, rather than ship them back to the States.
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The hull is finished in White Gel-Coat with only the deck and transom being painted white. I would guess that this was done at the same time that she was changed from twin engines to a single installation. The Interior seating appears to be original and in good condition and the hull appears to be ok apart from some minor gelcoat damage.

I would have thought that the Hull would be good due to the comparitively calm sea conditions here, coupled with the warm climate.

I still need to locate the owner to see if its for sale and to get a closer look at it. Id very much like to bring her back to the UK when i return and put her back together again.

What if anything goes wrong with the P25's? What should i look out for?

What would be the best pair of motors to fit her with and what performance figures could be expected?

Thanks guys .
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