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Old 14-10-2012, 08:34 PM   #21
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Not to mention designing and building it from scratch
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Yeah, a great boat it was too. Such a shame now there's not a class for racing it now really.
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Old 14-10-2012, 09:02 PM   #22
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Not to mention designing and building it from scratch... along with the previous 2 Assagais', 'Hooper & Ashby, Unipart, Westons Kodak, Fat Cat and Hospitality Inns.
Joe is a bit more than just a (excellent) mechanic.
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All great boats built and designed by Joe, and a really nice guy.
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Looking good Rich, looking forward to seeing it on the water!!
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Old 17-10-2012, 09:05 AM   #24
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Rich,is this the actual boat?
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Old 17-10-2012, 09:19 AM   #25
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Yeah, that was when it was racing in RB08.
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Old 17-10-2012, 10:11 AM   #26
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Very nice! do you think you could be tempted to come over to Guernsey next season and race against some 25's including your old one? maybe a few v24's and the rest
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Yeah, a great boat it was too. Such a shame now there's not a class for racing it now really.
No problem with racing it !! OPUK will cater for all classes of race boat !!
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No problem with racing it !! OPUK will cater for all classes of race boat !!
what?? assagi?? lol
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what?? assagi?? lol
125mph canopied cat. the RYA/committee meetings about safety, canopies, helicopters, divers etc would be endless eh.
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125mph canopied cat. the RYA/committee meetings about safety, canopies, helicopters, divers etc would be endless eh.
I think if we really wanted to, loads more of the red tape stuff could be added to that list lol.

But i bet somehow it would get through
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Old 17-10-2012, 05:08 PM   #31
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If i could get a sponsor!, I'd come over and race it.
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Old 17-10-2012, 09:07 PM   #32
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get all of us boys to put some money in the pot next year, i can tow it with the chevy and we can all go on the piss as well! make a good weekend. i've heard the tarmac boys have got some money, regards mart.
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Rich,I saw that in Martins workshop at Rochester just before he did the RBO8.
What a machine.Superb condition.You`ve done well there!.......Is it for keeps?
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Old 18-10-2012, 04:13 PM   #34
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Those motors weren't quite what they could have been. I had a ride in it, and one motor pulled 1000rpm less than the other flat out. That's a LOT as the good one would be dragging the bad one along, hiding the difference to some degree. I suspect one was at least 30-50hp less than the other. it ran mid 70's like that.

One was a Bishop motor and the other was copied to match (by I think phil collins for block work), anyways, they weren't really quite the same. What it did do very well as a twin, was run completely pitch stable. the balance was nice. Super soft ride too compared to the inboards. It was a very light boat.
Seem to remember these engines running 117 mph down Windermere on the Puma cat at the last records week held there . Can't have been a lot wrong with them .
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Seem to remember these engines running 117 mph down Windermere on the Puma cat at the last records week held there . Can't have been a lot wrong with them .
Well, maybe 1000rpm difference is normal then.

If they were running ok on the Puma, it's clearly impossible they didn't run correctly 2 years later on the P28.

It may have been: odd props (doubt it)

It may have been: a sick engine (clearly impossible)

It may have been: odd gear ratios (who knows, who cares)

It may have been: any number of things, but one motor well down on revs for whatever reason would be a good place to start looking for an apparent lack of speed, as I would expect low to mid 80's with that very light P28 and twin, healthy, tuned 2.5's.
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Old 18-10-2012, 05:54 PM   #36
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Rich,I saw that in Martins workshop at Rochester just before he did the RBO8.
What a machine.Superb condition.You`ve done well there!.......Is it for keeps?
Yeah, 100% for keeps
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Yeah, I think with a right setup, low 80's would be achievable. If mine would get close to that, i'd be very happy
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Old 23-10-2012, 10:20 PM   #38
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I have a p28 and rigged for rb08 with twin smiling jacks 2.5efis. Ive done it and all i could do do was the 80mph mark the motors had racing spirit but no grut i went thru atleasts 12 boxes there where never built to push such a big tub. I ran 300xs 3.2l no problem. Name of the game big boat big engines the 2.5 is a unbelivelable motor for its day and still is on a small boat. Ive been there. All best taz
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When you PM me, you said that you got 84mph was that with the 2.5's? Think you were blowing the boxes because you were running too deeper pitch props on a 2:1 box, 32's I believe? I will only be running 26" props on 1:87 gear ratio, so won't load the boxes up heavily. If you get the shimming dead right, they'll last a lot longer. Cheers Rich
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The gearboxes are also fragile on the X Cats, Sportmaster seems to suffer in twin applications - I would have thought that they would be working harder on a P28 than on a Cat?
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