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27-09-2005, 07:41 PM
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#321
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Country: UK
Location: South West
Boat make: Cyclone/ Cyclone/Rinker
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In a few months my new RAFF29 wil be introduced (and the RAFF195 (19.5ft)) and believe me, It has nothing to do with a phantom 28 because I want to build boats for todays performance boaters
Anything like a Cyclone 19 won at the worlds ?????????????????????????????
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27-09-2005, 08:21 PM
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#322
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Country: Belgium
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Fuller,
I am sorry next time I will ask you what I can do or not ok.
The boat in the picture was one of a customer, I repaired the powerlift and installed the trim buttons on the steering wheel. The boat was built in Holland by a guy named Willem. The graphics I did not like but who am I to decide?
Also next time when somebody asks me to work on a phantom I will ask him if it is a steve baker built. If not I will burn it OK?
Tell me: what is the copyright or patend n° of the phantom boats? What designer permission?
The other day a guy came to me with a mold of a step to enter a truck and asked me to make some steps out of it. I did not ask the designer of the step or the builder of the mold if I could make some steps out of the mold.
YOU SUSPECT ME? What exactly is your frustration?
You do not know everything and please don't call me liar unless you are in my face
I made a white one for a German customer (I did not put any stickers on it) and a black one.
The black one I still have as a bare hull
In Holland there are several 28ft
Like I said before todays standards for performance boats are different then when the phantoms were designed.
So I had a back to the future customer who likes very much a 28. I find the builder in Holland who doesn't want to build one but he wants to rent the molds... bla bla end of story
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27-09-2005, 08:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wacky Racer
In a few months my new RAFF29 wil be introduced (and the RAFF195 (19.5ft)) and believe me, It has nothing to do with a phantom 28 because I want to build boats for todays performance boaters
Anything like a Cyclone 19 won at the worlds ?????????????????????????????
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To inform you : the 195 is a boat I make just to try the new proces we are gooing to use for building plugs. The new boats plugs are completely cnc machined. The deck and hull are designed on the computer I will post some drawings if you want to see
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27-09-2005, 08:34 PM
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#324
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yes please that would be interesting to see!
do you cnc a foam material or other?
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27-09-2005, 08:41 PM
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#325
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gav
yes please that would be interesting to see!
do you cnc a foam material or other?
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Yes we use foam and then Masterworks to finish I will post tomorrow from my office, also from the first cnc test 1:20 scale
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27-09-2005, 08:48 PM
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#326
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Quote:
Originally posted by Raffshore
Yes we use foam and then Masterworks to finish I will post tomorrow from my office, also from the first cnc test 1:20 scale
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How do you find the cost difference between conventional plug making and cnc?
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27-09-2005, 09:12 PM
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#327
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More expensive but, the boat so much nicer.
I want to have the same lines in the deck true all the models. it's easier also, the machine does the work
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27-09-2005, 09:57 PM
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#328
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Country: England
Location: Great Horwood
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He speaks English as he writes it Gav!
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27-09-2005, 10:10 PM
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#329
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: south coast
Occupation: Derivatives Trader
Interests: kids & fun
Boat name: Taboo Too
Boat make: Chaudron 33
Engines: 2 x 225 Merc Optimax
Cruising area: south coast & med
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Nice photos Jon.
Jon maybe you could enlighten us all and tell us how many & what Phantoms you have owned over the years? Or any other performance boats for that matter.
Just interested
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27-09-2005, 10:13 PM
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#330
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ciao
He speaks English as he writes it Gav!
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we should knickname him YODA!
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27-09-2005, 10:16 PM
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#331
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Does the best BBQ I know Gav -Top mate of mine!
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27-09-2005, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ciao
Does the best BBQ I know Gav -Top mate of mine!
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cool....
BTW will need some more additions to the website soon..  
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27-09-2005, 10:51 PM
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The Doc
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Quote:
Originally posted by kinfast
Nice photos Jon.
Jon maybe you could enlighten us all and tell us how many & what Phantoms you have owned over the years? Or any other performance boats for that matter.
Just interested
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dont get him started, he was born with a seagul strapped to his arse & i think he used to go boating in his action mans dinghy when he grew big enough 
ere JF, you ever own a crusader?
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27-09-2005, 10:54 PM
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ere JF, you ever own a crusader? [/B]
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no no no not that pic again please! 
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27-09-2005, 11:20 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: south coast
Occupation: Derivatives Trader
Interests: kids & fun
Boat name: Taboo Too
Boat make: Chaudron 33
Engines: 2 x 225 Merc Optimax
Cruising area: south coast & med
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Location: south coast
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"with a seagul strapped to his arse !!!"
I think I have the video, real kinky stuff, not my bag though!
Shame JF won't reply in person
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27-09-2005, 11:34 PM
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#336
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The Doc
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he's not online you silly fool!
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27-09-2005, 11:54 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: south coast
Occupation: Derivatives Trader
Interests: kids & fun
Boat name: Taboo Too
Boat make: Chaudron 33
Engines: 2 x 225 Merc Optimax
Cruising area: south coast & med
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Location: south coast
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Yes he is, sending private messages @11:50
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27-09-2005, 11:55 PM
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#338
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Quote:
Originally posted by kinfast
Yes he is, sending private messages @11:50
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he is now but wasn't at 11.20
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28-09-2005, 12:06 AM
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#339
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: south coast
Occupation: Derivatives Trader
Interests: kids & fun
Boat name: Taboo Too
Boat make: Chaudron 33
Engines: 2 x 225 Merc Optimax
Cruising area: south coast & med
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good point, however it is now 00:05....15 minutes still has not replied....it was a simple question
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28-09-2005, 12:07 AM
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#340
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The Doc
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he's on the phone to me!
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