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Old 21-02-2012, 08:23 AM   #41
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Psi

Hello,

We check the psi, all 8 are in Cold Condition near 9 and all of them Same.

The VRO Pumps are working, an the Engine is runing in a Testtank at my frind.

There everything Works fine. Gearbox also. We put a testpropeller on it.

Next ist the Test on the Boat.
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Old 21-02-2012, 04:21 PM   #42
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fotos piranha carrera

i hope it works.
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Old 21-02-2012, 04:55 PM   #43
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Well bearing in mind they originally raced with twin six cylinder outboards weight wise should be ok.
It is quite an old engine that V8 but worth a try if flat water.
I wouldnt want to give it the gun in rough offshore water maybe a modern V6 would be better.
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Old 21-02-2012, 05:35 PM   #44
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Ahoi,

Did i translate right, a Twin Six Package on a piranha Carrera?

I did it like you say. If the V8 Engine Runs good, perfekt, if Not i take my 200 E-Tec and everything is Fine.

Gun? What do you expect for topspeed.


Do anybody know Anything about a "good" Offshore /raceboat Training?

Tanx for Info.

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Old 21-02-2012, 09:07 PM   #45
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He i see that plate is not orginal they printed is with black.

If u wanna now what year it is check in the boot in the front under the deck u wil find the serial number date and mechanic who build it.
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Old 22-02-2012, 09:50 AM   #46
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Hey, Inside under the Deck in the bow, i can Not find Anything, There is only a marking with a Red pen on some Parts:

Deck Carrera.

That is it. Absolut in the Front there is no Space for me to get in. Ther are Parts for the balance Tank an the fill in for the fueltank.

No idea. Mayby you Show me on a Picture of an Other Boat where to Look.

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Old 22-02-2012, 12:27 PM   #47
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He i see that plate is not orginal they printed is with black.

If u wanna now what year it is check in the boot in the front under the deck u wil find the serial number date and mechanic who build it.
Thats plate is as origional as it gets......
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Danke - thanks.

By the Way, thanks to all how anserwer an " take Care" of my questions.

I know there are still a'lot questions wich will Be answerd

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Old 22-02-2012, 03:01 PM   #49
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Hey Piranha,
nice boat what you bought and nice original interior , keep this v8 (dinosaur)!!, you will like it on flat water on your boat,set up with the hights and the nose cone looks good to me on the pictures.
you can get lots of parts in the us for this engines.

in the rough it will shake you a bit with the torque and weight on the back, the torque you can handle with a smaller prop in diameter and more pitch with less bite in rough conditions.

i like v8 two strokes



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hello micheal,

danke, thats what i want to read!!!!!!!!!

the interioer dosn´t look like on easy´s pictures.

the pre owner was´t so correct in handel this boat. ( sorry for my german english. i give my best. to speek is more esyer!)

after test an riding i built it so orginal up as i can. like i to with my other baby´s (no raceboats but boats)

the V8 was on it just at the bracket. when i put it on again, i try a little higher than it was, or should i use a powerlift or somting else? i have to learn.

with a powerlift thre will be more distance to the evinrudiand the boat, that means more wight outside at the end of the boat, right?

i got two props, a 19´and a 23´ stainless steel, they fit, what i the right word for, i mean the gearbox, underwatergearbox, what ever. bob´s garage HP unterwater........
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Topspeed?

Maybe someone have an idea about the Speed of this package?
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Hey Piranha,
nice boat what you bought and nice original interior , keep this v8 (dinosaur)!!, you will like it on flat water on your boat,set up with the hights and the nose cone looks good to me on the pictures.
you can get lots of parts in the us for this engines.

in the rough it will shake you a bit with the torque and weight on the back, the torque you can handle with a smaller prop in diameter and more pitch with less bite in rough conditions.

i like v8 two strokes



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Old 22-02-2012, 06:43 PM   #53
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I like 350+ horsepower screaming two strokes

A friend of mine had the same engine in the early 90‘s ,what i know from remembering... it was a fuel sucker like a v8 chevy big block from the 60's.

The engine is good on a 24 heavy hull for 60mph + , yours should be little faster on a 23 foot boat with the right prop.
keep the engine on the save side,go with pre mix if not already made.
keep it always on the good ridge fuel side ,will cost a couple of HP but will save a costly rebuild.
check the carbs and carb bowls for any dirt contamination under the floats,or in the jet area, use a good fuel filter.if one carb gets leaned out,or a jet cloged your 2 stroke is gone real fast .
like all two strokes they don't like lean condition ,the piston and liner don't have the time to cool down like on four strokes.

19 Prop is a way to small 23 pitch for testing the engine at low rpm is ok ,be careful the 3.6 or 4.0 liter rotating assembly is very heavy like all v8‘s and if you spin an old worn and factory balanced v8 engine with lots of rpm ,something will go, mostly bearing failure or in the worst case a rod will go or crank can go in two halfs, keep an old engine little under the manufacture given max rpm and it will be ok.if you are ready for a rebuild go higher if you want, in the us the jonyrude v8's are around and spare parts available.

for baltic sea and rough condition i would say a 24 to 25 pitch 4 blade with the bullet centerline 2-2.5 inches under the center of the hull to get the weight momentum of the power head deep as possible will be fine , for flat out river or lake 1-1.5 inches and if the engine is healthy and strong a 26 to 28 pitch 3 blade prop will be fine if you are in the right recommended rpm range, that's also where the low water pic on the bobs nose cone will come into play to get water into it at medium to max trimm out and a higher set up.

most v hulls dont like a lifter , because of the set back what makes it more unstable in rough condition . specially mr.steve baker (phantom) don't recommend a lifter for his hulls but that will vary with hull design , ride plate,stepped or not ,the mid section lenghts of the engine, weight distribution, ballast-tank filled or empty and so on.
it will be always a compromise between the setups and different water conditions.


on eight of ten old big outboards what i have seen ,mostly the engine mounts are gone and soft ,the steering arm bushings in the saddle and splines on the steering arm yoke are warn out or already rusted away ,the result will be a very unstable ride and lots of chine walk specially with a heavy anchor on the transom like yours ,that will steer and point in all direction under load and not in yours .

i am not a pro in raceboat rigging maybe somebody other can point you in the right direction in the tec Q&A department here at the board

good luck with the boat and engine
let us know the result and how it was the first day out

Some tec info ,maybe not known ? for you
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=94746

http://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-...not-e-tec.html

ps. and welcome to this nice board, lots of nice and helpful people here !!!!
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Old 23-02-2012, 09:21 AM   #56
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Thumbs up Thanks for replies.

Also for the Welcome on this page.

The Pernio, wow Respect.

I take the old setup for the First Ride. Both props are Three Blade, i check the Size again.

Gerat replies of all the pro-speedboat-Offshore-maniac's. Fine.

Carbs are working, we check it unter Test in a Tank with a testpropeller on it.

VRO are working, but maybe a little les, so my Buddy Gold me to drive premix for shore. I do, don't wont to bring the monster to the Doctor.

Fotos, maybe a Video but for shore all Details about the First Ride will follow.

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Old 23-02-2012, 09:40 AM   #57
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well the 19 pitch is useless in my eye"s also and i think the 23 too. I had on my piranha Miura 19Ft 135hp With a 23pitch Cleaver it go about 60-65 mph And thats just a 135hp on a smaller boats butt i also think u need to be looking around 26-27 pitch if u want some speed ?
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Ok, i check the size and post it.

Nixe Day.

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Old 23-02-2012, 01:22 PM   #59
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Ups, wring numbers.

On the One without a Typ of rubber-clutch in the Middle:

487 46 04 A4 25P. And some repairnumbers.

The Other, with rubber in the Middle:

23861 or 120 940 the Other are also repairnumbers. At the end on this prop, where the Wings get thick, there is on every Wing a 8 in.

Pictures follow!
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prop fotos

there are the fotos of the props.
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