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Old 22-05-2009, 03:52 PM   #1
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Quick question regarding P18.

How are P18's in heavy seas? Do they handle it well or are they only for the comitted? I know the larger phantoms are quite easy to handle even in rough seas.

Looking for that size of boat for a friend and he might want to stretch to a 21ft, either Phantom or Frode (he's in Sweden), if they are much better in adverse conditions. The boat is not meant for the rough, more of a quick ski/swim/island hopper, but he wants to know that it will be able to take care of him if caught out as it can get really rough on the west coast where he is based.

Any feedback much appreciated.

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Old 23-05-2009, 01:13 AM   #2
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No one with any input? Especially about the P18 in the trading post! He's very interested in how an outfit like that will be able to handle some rougher conditions??

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Old 23-05-2009, 06:03 AM   #3
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the 18 will go further than you in the rough
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Old 23-05-2009, 04:03 PM   #4
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What are those old engines like? Reliable? Heavy drinkers? Need to be serviced often? etc They are from the early 80's right?

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Old 23-05-2009, 05:48 PM   #5
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The 18 is a great boat for sure, proven in rough seas when raced but as any boat has to be set up well. i dont know anything about frodes.

the problem that you have is you are trying to compare 2 entirely different animals.
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Old 24-05-2009, 10:52 AM   #6
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Not really trying to compare the two, but rather looking insight on how the P18 behaves in the rough as compared to the bigger Phantoms.

Phantoms are normally a calmer experience and more stable than a Frode which takes more commitment to drive fast in the rough.

A phantom 25 is his perfect "play" boat but is too pricey for him at the moment so he's looking further down in the Phantom family and this boat looks a good option.
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....100#post158100
I believe it will be good enough in the rough. I am more worried about the engine.

How are these old engines? Frequent rebuilds? Reliable? Heavy drinkers? Good for cruising, ie not WOT all the time?

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Old 27-05-2009, 05:46 AM   #7
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Any phantom is good in the rough,a lot better than the Frode,I have driven an 18 a21 and a25,the 18 was a bit twitchy at full chat and tended to chine ride,the 21 with bow tank full would cut through anything,the 25 even better again solid as a rock,the Frode 21 i would pass on that if i was you,my mate had one after a phantom,was not happy with it at all,came back to a p18 and the Frode is now lying for sale in a boatyard near blackpool,another thing to consider is selling it,phantoms not a problem,frode you will struggle.
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2.4 engines,yes,they are gas guzzlers,26 ish gallons an hour,if its economy you are after go for a 200 optimax and swop the gearbox for a 2 to 1 ratio,the 18 will still fly,with a 2.4 bridgeport it will be lethal.
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