R21 Vs Extreme 21

andy21 · 30-09-2009, 01:47 PM

Hi All,

Would I notice much difference if I swapped from an R21c to and Extreme 21 as used for the Honda 150s? Speed/comfort/stability/storage space.. Mainly from a pleasure point of view…

I find my Ring slams a lot when its rough (unless you go balls out!) which isn’t enjoyable for the passengers…

I also like the look of being able to stand up slightly when driving...

And finally, is the wee cabin up front enough space to sleep in overnight?

Cheers for any help,

Andy

Carl · 30-09-2009, 02:51 PM

plenty of room to overnight,i have spent many a good weekend away on the 21 i had,performance will be very simular

larby · 02-10-2009, 08:05 PM

Am i right in thinking that the Extreme 21 has 1 ft extra width and more freeboard than a 21c, hence the extra room etc?

James

Captain Chaos · 02-10-2009, 09:40 PM

Yeh, I think the 21c is one of the last 6ft beam sportsboats. The Exteme 21 is i think the "D" model & Mikes later sportsboat then became the "E" I think.

Steve · 03-10-2009, 08:55 AM

The Ring 21E had a 1ft increase in beam over all other Ring 21s & was by far the best riding of all the 21 variants. I believe Mike has sold the moulds to Belgium.

My understanding is that the Extreme 21 used the same hull mould as the Ring 21E but had increased freeboard to cater for the increase in weight of the inboards. TD will no doubt confirm this.

andy21 · 03-10-2009, 10:41 AM

So if it was set up with the same engine as a 21c it would be slightly slower?

Spotted this one on fleabay, anyone know any info on it? Seems fairly cheap...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...#ht_500wt_1182

Cheers for the replies so far!

Andy

larby · 03-10-2009, 12:46 PM

C'mon!! I was right about something for once!

I think the 21E/ Extreme is a great looking boat, I'd expect a fair difference in sea handling ability. Is the 7ft beam version a deeper 'V' than the 6 ft beam, else i'd expect the narrower boat to cut through the wake better?

As for the speed, is the 21E and lighter/heavier than the 21C? I'd imagine that in an average chop over here a novice (as most of us young'uns are!) could keep a higher speed in the 21E thanks to the extra stability, yet I'd expect the 21C to be lighter and therefore faster in the flat?

Thats quite enough thinking for me at this time of day!

James

Captain Chaos · 03-10-2009, 01:02 PM

i'm pretty sure the extreme 21 is the ring 21D. so it came before the later E sportsboat.

larby · 03-10-2009, 01:22 PM

Oh yeah, kinda forgot there that obviously the Honda boats aren't Extremes! So did Tony sell on the moulds for the 21, resulting in the Honda 150's? What does Tony still produce now, just the 24? Is there something exciting in the pipeline?? He seems to be quietly selling everything!

James

Carl · 03-10-2009, 01:44 PM

the original batch of honda race boats are extremes built by tony,i think cougar just put there name on them

Captain Chaos · 03-10-2009, 10:28 PM

Since the original batch of boats were supplied way back when, Cougar make them (they've also done an altered deck) and pay Extreme/TD a royalty (well, i think they are supposed to).