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09-12-2005, 08:03 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Birmingham
Occupation: Scratching
Interests: Big Dinners
Boat name: Never Enough
Boat make: Seaquel 600xs
Engines: 225hp Merc ProMax
Cruising area: Anywhere! I prefer Weymouth
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Birmingham
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Cool beans!
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09-12-2005, 08:04 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Boat make: Argo 18
Engines: Yamaha
Join Date: Nov 2005
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If you want to buy a New Argo V-Hull !?
Send me a mail and I´ll give you Harry Fabritius phone nr, in Finland !
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10-12-2005, 01:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrRob
I am chilled out I just get the hump when people take what I have got the say the wrong way and thats usually you JF as you seem to use every chance you get to take a pop at/take the piss out of what I say.
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10-12-2005, 09:18 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Birmingham
Occupation: Scratching
Interests: Big Dinners
Boat name: Never Enough
Boat make: Seaquel 600xs
Engines: 225hp Merc ProMax
Cruising area: Anywhere! I prefer Weymouth
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Birmingham
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You coming to torbay next weekend Burty?
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10-12-2005, 09:20 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrRob
You coming to torbay next weekend Burty?
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maybe.
which day?
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10-12-2005, 09:21 AM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Birmingham
Occupation: Scratching
Interests: Big Dinners
Boat name: Never Enough
Boat make: Seaquel 600xs
Engines: 225hp Merc ProMax
Cruising area: Anywhere! I prefer Weymouth
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 3,232
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Quote:
Originally posted by Burty
maybe.
which day?
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10-12-2005, 09:41 AM
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Quote:
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Saturday 17th
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might do then, have to see if i'm working because everybody wants their jobs finished before christmas
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10-12-2005, 02:27 PM
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Country: Poland
Location: Warsaw
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Thaks for all your answers
But I have couple more questions to ask
Bob how fast would 19ft bernico be with stock 150hp??
I will be using it as a pleasure boat. I think I will buy 4stroke engine to this boat. I know that they aren't high performance engines but there any couple reasons why I want 4 stroke.
Second thing is why argo website isn't working??
Is any other place where can I find specs of those boats??
Budget isn't huge problem because I'm not buying boat now but I'm planning to buy it and If I won't buy it next year I will buy it in 2 years. I'm not racing and I'm changing boats once per 8-10 years ( I have my clubman for 8 years now) and that is why I want to know what would be the best for me. I don't want to spend my money for boat I will not like
Anyway there are some cool boats like b-23 made by ocke mannerfelt or similliar boat like backdraft.
But I think that they need some more power than 150hp
Last think. I know boatsandoutboards.co.uk
Can you tell me if there are some other website where can I find some boats??
Thanks Again
MIKE
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10-12-2005, 02:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Sussex
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The b23 ocke mannerfelt def needs more than 150hp and is tandem deck (backdraft also) so if your not gonna race i wouldnt go for one of these! Cant really go wrong with a phantom in my opinion!
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10-12-2005, 02:53 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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19 ft Boat with 150 will be good for about 60 mph , mine does 60+ with 130 yam & would be similar top speed with 115-140 4 stroke not much to be gained with 150 4 stroke maybe just some extra grunt , wasted moving the extra weight.
Have you tried to call Harry Argo ?
boatsandoutboards is the main online independant to look for boats. the other sites are more specific ie phantomuk.co.uk or www.bernico.be etc,
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10-12-2005, 03:12 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: dorset
Interests: wasting money on boats
Boat name: aquilla .
Boat make: Superhawk 40. Ring 21E. Seadoo gtx. Windy Khamsin
Engines: Kad 300s. 300xs Dbr .d6 370 230 4tec
Cruising area: corfu
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11-12-2005, 11:21 AM
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Location: Warsaw
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I believe 150hp Honda weight less than 130hp
But offcourse there is very light Suzuki 140hp
Is your yamaha stock?? What about lower unit?? Did you put nose cone??
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11-12-2005, 11:25 AM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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140 Suzuki is the lightest of 4 strokes. My 130 is as it came out of the box , the only mod is nylon engine mounts.
I dont think i would want the weight of a honda on a 19' boat !!
Bob
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11-12-2005, 12:00 PM
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Registered User
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So 19' bernico with 140hp suzuki, good propeller, nose cone and some set up time should give me 60mph+...... I think it is nice
Ok last question
Does bernico have V-pad?? Or is it V ??
Which of those boats have V-pad bottom??
Mike
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11-12-2005, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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Personally have found no real advantage on these engines with nose cone !!
You are starting to move into the realms of Racing !!
A 19' boat with 140 Suzuki with perhaps a 24" laser should give approx 60mph as a std setup! for your suggested use there is no need to lift engine too high or add any extra's
It will run a larger prop than most of the 130-140 hp range due to its very low gear ratio !!
Bob
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11-12-2005, 12:10 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
Posts: 3,095
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Sorry forgot the bottom , The Bernico has a stepped pad V hull
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11-12-2005, 02:15 PM
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#57
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: colnbrook
Occupation: 3d visualiser
Interests: not getting my fags wet
Boat name: Baccaruda Rescue
Boat make: Binliner 175
Engines: OMC tractor
Cruising area: Hoo (medway)
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: colnbrook
Posts: 131
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Quote:
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whys you navigator sat in the back?
doesn't look rough enough to throw him out
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Bob have you been cheating again
by getting nige in the back to power your boat by methane
or is it Alcohol
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