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Old 19-11-2004, 10:08 PM   #1
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safety equipment

im after a decent life jacket and helmet,ive been looking at a hutchwilco life jacket,are they anygood?is there anything better?will a decent motorbike helmet do? anything else i need?
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Old 19-11-2004, 10:18 PM   #2
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if i was you i would visit adams website it is www.k4plus.com he sales life jackets and helmets but a motor bike helmet would do.
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Old 19-11-2004, 10:23 PM   #3
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I don't know anything about racing but have been told not to use a motorcycle helmet as the 'bucket effect' could break your neck if you were thrown out of the boat. I have a Gecko helmet(www.geckoheadgear.co.uk); they make marine use helmets as used by the RNLI.

We have a RIB though and, as Johnson will tell you, they're really just waterborne trampolines. Perhaps motorcycle helmets are OK in 'proper' boats.
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Old 19-11-2004, 10:30 PM   #4
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hi,

i myself use geko helmets for k class they are very light and comfortable but the visers come off very easy as i have lost one myself.

but i would look at one of adams "roof" helmets i have been told they are very good.
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Old 19-11-2004, 11:18 PM   #5
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Thank adam from k4+ for my nose cone kit!!

Looks quality just gotta figure out how to fit it

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Old 19-11-2004, 11:26 PM   #6
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Safety equipment? I don't belive it! (Victor Meldrew style)

I thought that the boatmad.com safety equipment inventory was a suntan lotion:hot: , raybans and a packet of condoms

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Old 20-11-2004, 08:28 AM   #7
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These are very popular with Offshore, Rib & Honda. £175.00 + postage... As for helmets, Gecko's look cool, but don't you think your head is a valuable piece of equipment and deserves better!!!!

Ask JF about sammy's little accident!!!
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Old 20-11-2004, 08:37 AM   #8
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Ask JF about sammy's little accident!!!
C'mon then Jon. What's the story?
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Old 20-11-2004, 10:50 AM   #9
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I was out testing with Steve Salmon, of 'Salmon Power Sports', who was going to be doing a race with me.

We were both wearing Simpson race helmets, these are quite pricey glass/Kevlar construction helmets with a good reputation, and get used in many forms of motorsport. These particular ones are normally used for drag racing, and have a relatively small appeture and very thick (.125") Polycarbonate visor, which are good qualities for avoiding the rather common problem of the visor caving in during a stuff, and doing a nice number on your face.

We had a bit of a 'moment' running through the Hurst race, we were running at about 65mph, when things went a bit wrong, and we basically did a 180 degree hook. For anyone who hasn't had the pleasure of a full on 'hook', they are a very, very violent, unintended change in direction, and you really are just a passenger untill things come to a rest.

The boat hooked to the right, I was on the port side, so had nowhere to go but harder against the port side combing, but Steve had about 6 feet of cockpit to travel across once he was ripped from his seat (bending the steering wheel, and tearing a lump of glassfibre out of the bulkhead with his foot) and by the time he hit my side of the cockpit, he was moving pretty fast.

When it all came to a rest, Steve had a shattered collar bone, and was unconcious. He's hit my h-held GPS which had been gaffa taped to the dash with his body, and squashed it, and the batteries within 'flat'!

The Simpson helmet had hit the side of the cockpit (with the considerable weight of his fat head inside), and had a split from the top, right down one side, and into the rubber edging around the base.

The damage was surprising, and showed just how much energy is involved in a high speed accident.

When he came round, he didn't remember a thing, and suffered short term memory loss for a few days.

Clearly, had the helmet been any lesser strength, he could have had far worse head injuries.

The joke for ages was, I had a spill in the boat, and ended up with a 200lb Salmon on my lap!

I think helmets like the Gecko, and other polycarbonate types, are ok for lower speed boating, and are certainly light and comfortable, but not really intended for very high speed stuff, or racing.

If I were intending to go fast, and be pushing my luck as far as driving near, or above my limit, as one does when racing, the crash helmet would be the last thing I would attempt to save money on.

Your head is quite an important part of your body, and well worth protecting. (unless your name is Mantoss, my advice to him would be, when racing, wear one of those shower caps you get free in hotel rooms)


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Old 20-11-2004, 11:42 AM   #10
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Thanks for the story - very interesting (and sobering). We use our helmets for leisure only and only in poor weather (when we are likely to be going slower but more likely to be banged around - Richard once headbutted someone's GPS!). Sounds like proper racing helmets are the only way to go for you lot who have more money than sense (ie racers!).
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Old 20-11-2004, 12:10 PM   #11
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Sounds like proper racing helmets are the only way to go for you lot who have more money than sense (ie racers!).
Yeah, and remember, most of us aint got any money either! so the sense bit is non existant.
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Old 20-11-2004, 01:27 PM   #12
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thanks for that jon, ive just shown the wife and she's just bought me a nice helmet and lifejacket from k4,you've just saved me over £400 with that info.
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Old 20-11-2004, 02:45 PM   #13
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Do they stop ya edd flying off?
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Old 20-11-2004, 04:56 PM   #14
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talking of manos ive just been on the ribsters site,apparently he's off to malta in january to test the chaudron range of boats,god help the owner
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Old 20-11-2004, 05:00 PM   #15
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Jackanory, Jackanory

I'm going over to Bell Hellicopters next week, thinking of ordering a couple of Jet Rangers, although all my rich mates reckon I should go for the Apache gunship. decisions decisions.
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Old 20-11-2004, 05:10 PM   #16
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if he buys a chaudron/phantom will you welcome him back to boatmad jon? im glad ive got a new helmet
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Old 20-11-2004, 05:15 PM   #17
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if he buys a chaudron/phantom will you welcome him back to boatmad jon?
Yeah, just after I cut my own cock off with a rusty knife!

Please don't blaspheme, no Maltese 'splash' will ever bear a genuine Phantom badge.
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Old 20-11-2004, 05:26 PM   #18
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Old 20-11-2004, 06:51 PM   #19
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hi roofer,

i glad i could help and save you money at the same!!!

not bad for a 13 year old!!
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Old 21-11-2004, 09:08 PM   #20
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The RNLI and mlitary sware by Geko helmets, they are nice and light and 1 size fits all!! I thought about racing in 1 but after a stuff my simpson had a huge crack down the back. They're all right for upto 40 mph but anything over that needs a crash helmet not a bump cap!!
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