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22-10-2006, 04:42 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 477
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She will be sadly missed
Sold the Phantom today, hope I dont live to regret it. Hopefully it will be out racing next year with its new owner. 
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22-10-2006, 04:48 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South Coast
Interests: Boats/Cranes
Boat make: Revenger 29 RIB
Engines: Illmor V10/625hp.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: South Coast
Posts: 247
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Hopefully you will be out there racing too Ian,where to now then class 1 
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22-10-2006, 04:48 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
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Location: Weston Super Mare
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cool, I know someone else who sold his phantom today too 
Erm..... you need to change your personal information now too
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22-10-2006, 04:49 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 2,646
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my nav's gonna miss seeing the yellow underside of your boat in the rough ian ! 
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22-10-2006, 05:16 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,871
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I can't imagine you're giving up racing - so what are you buying (or mebbe have already bought ) instead?
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22-10-2006, 09:07 PM
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Aged Member
Country: UK
Location: HAMPSHIRE
Occupation: Safety Engineering
Boat name: Savannah
Boat make: Princess 415
Engines: Volvos
Cruising area: SOLENT
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: HAMPSHIRE
Posts: 778
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Yeah, c'mon Ian, spill the beans...
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22-10-2006, 10:04 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: colnbrook
Occupation: 3d visualiser
Interests: not getting my fags wet
Boat name: Baccaruda Rescue
Boat make: Binliner 175
Engines: OMC tractor
Cruising area: Hoo (medway)
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: colnbrook
Posts: 131
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what about K1000
you can't have tried that yet
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08-11-2006, 08:11 PM
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Registered User
Country: south coast
Location: brighton
Interests: boatin
Boat name: Hey Jude
Boat make: Phantom
Engines: 200 xs
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: brighton
Posts: 44
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DAVE
[B]Yeah, c'mon Ian, spill the beans...
Rumor has it hes been spotted with the Whites bat boat]
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09-11-2006, 10:12 AM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: engineer
Interests: lots
Boat make: scorpion 8.1
Engines: 250HO
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: southampton
Posts: 1,350
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scuse my ignorance... Ian and his phantoms rep for the rough has surely got to be more ians driving than the boat is it not?? never seen em in action but heard plenty! 
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Originally posted by scottyboy
my nav's gonna miss seeing the yellow underside of your boat in the rough ian !
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09-11-2006, 10:19 AM
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Registered User
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,186
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Quote:
Originally posted by glen76
scuse my ignorance... Ian and his phantoms rep for the rough has surely got to be more ians driving than the boat is it not?? never seen em in action but heard plenty!
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I think you'll find it was his ability to drive the phantom so well in the rough!
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09-11-2006, 11:57 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,633
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I remember racing OCR in Salcombe with Derek in the rough - and Sharon in her P16 was really quick and put a lot of the 2 litre boats to shame!
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09-11-2006, 01:00 PM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 2,646
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Quote:
Originally posted by glen76
scuse my ignorance... Ian and his phantoms rep for the rough has surely got to be more ians driving than the boat is it not?? never seen em in action but heard plenty!
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Yeah and you mean what? 
What i meant was ian has passed me in the rough and all you see from about 15ft away is the yellow underside of his phantom on its rubbing strip flat out!
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09-11-2006, 01:20 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,942
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I think the thing is, that the B23's etc, are highly developed race boats, that when working within their 'envelope', are imeasurably better than the now rather 'generic' Phantom 21 sportsboat.
But, when the sea state reaches a point that the B23 is outside of it's envelope, it begins to flounder.
If driven with absolute commitment, that point where things change will I'm sure increase, but the fact remains that when it's in it's zone, a race between a P21 and a B23 is very much a one horse race, with the Mannerfelt an obvious winner, by far.
When outside it's zone, and consequently floundering, the old school P21 is, in the right hands, able to stay on top in quite severe conditions. A bit more blood & Guts old style if ya like.
It's noteworthy though, that Ian is a very commited driver and understands his boat, and he's clearly not short of driving skill either, so he makes a good entry when the others are out of their sweet spot.
I'm sure whatever boat he gets next, will be driven with the same commitment & thought, and I wish him well.
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09-11-2006, 04:20 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: portsmouth
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: portsmouth
Posts: 290
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
It's noteworthy though, that Ian is a very commited driver and understands his boat, and he's clearly not short of driving skill either, so he makes a good entry when the others are out of their sweet spot.
I'm sure whatever boat he gets next, will be driven with the same commitment & thought, and I wish him well. [/B]
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AND I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST COS ALEX WAS SQUEEZING THE BEARDED ONES BALLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
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09-11-2006, 06:18 PM
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Traveling
Country: UK
Location: Alderholt
Occupation: Aerospace
Boat name: T/T D2S
Boat make: Midas 27' Cat, Argo 16 Cat. Avon Rib Thingy
Engines: Merc 280-ROS -JSRE,65Xs, 75 Stinger, Yam 60
Cruising area: Any Seedy Bar
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Alderholt
Posts: 4,219
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I fink Mr Ian needs to get his mits on one of them old tin forgecraft things..... That would be intresting .............................
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09-11-2006, 06:48 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Quote:
Originally posted by BluFin
I fink Mr Ian needs to get his mits on one of them old tin forgecraft things..... That would be intresting .............................
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He's probaly done them, remember Ian has been on the water since befor Noah!
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09-11-2006, 08:29 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 477
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
I'm sure whatever boat he gets next, will be driven with the same commitment & thought, and I wish him well.
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Thanks Jon and to all you other guys for the words of encouragement.
I will obviously be out trying next year but I am also a realist. Most of my racing career has been in Phantoms so to jump into something so totally different is going to take a lot of testing through the winter and all next season before I get anywhere near the true performance out of the boat.
Last time I drove a Mannerfelt it did not like being cornered like a P16 and it threw me out in Windermere in October. I was that cold it took me 4hrs before I could find the old todger to go and have a piss!!
Hoping to give the new steed a run this weekend so if I dont return, its been nice knowing you all! 
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09-11-2006, 08:30 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 477
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Kerr
He's probaly done them, remember Ian has been on the water since befor Noah!
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I used to take Noah out in his pram! 
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09-11-2006, 08:37 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Cornwall
Occupation: Civil Engineer in the water industry
Interests: Powerboat racing, travel, curries, zimmers
Boat name: "N" Class fabrication
Boat make: B23
Engines: 200XS
Cruising area: Torbay & Falmouth
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 477
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cookee
I remember racing OCR in Salcombe with Derek in the rough - and Sharon in her P16 was really quick and put a lot of the 2 litre boats to shame!
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I was in that race as well Cookee and if memory serves me correct Sharon was actually leading into the first turn with Bob Baker 2nd in his P20/XR2. We were back in 4th or 5th and it took us a full lap to get past her. She was one hell of a driver!
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09-11-2006, 09:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: engineer
Interests: lots
Boat make: scorpion 8.1
Engines: 250HO
Cruising area: solent
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: southampton
Posts: 1,350
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Quote:
Originally posted by scottyboy
Yeah and you mean what?
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i meant without insulting phantom owners, phantom 21 is probably not the MOST legendary rough water boat int he world yet people consider ian and his p21 an unbeatable force... a good combination not one single entity thats all 
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