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Old 04-03-2007, 05:31 PM   #1
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steve baker xs-rib conection

i was told a while back that steve baker designed or helped design the hulls on the xs rib range currently sold by barnet marine is this bull or is it true? anyone got an idea? thanks
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Old 27-03-2008, 10:58 PM   #2
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Not that I'm aware of.
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Old 27-03-2008, 11:19 PM   #3
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taa john was suprised when i got the email about this page lol
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Old 27-03-2008, 11:24 PM   #4
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I don't expect it would be deliberate. But, since the XS range appears to be Tornado, although they claim modified Tornado, and some Tornado hulls were based on the Phantom and Ring hulls, I guess a few folk might unwittingly have input to the XS designs.
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Old 27-03-2008, 11:26 PM   #5
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yea cant remeber how it came about any more but the guy i was talking to was fairly convinced but then we had been so i was a bit sceptical. hull performs really well. but is to lightly built for a rib in my opinion
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...but is to lightly built for a rib in my opinion
I was once at the Tornado factory. The decks I saw being laid were just 3/8" ply with a couple of layers of csm on top.
I can't remember the size of the boats though so, being kind, they may have been small ones.
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Old 27-03-2008, 11:34 PM   #7
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xs are very secretive of the construction as well. the finish isnt exelent either some of the components are a bit cheap but then you pays ya money...
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Old 27-03-2008, 11:36 PM   #8
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I know Tornado did a deal with Steve to use the hull of the P28 for their big rib of the time (9.5M I think) this was back in about 1997/1998. However, after borrowing the mould and removing the 1oz layup that had been done in the mould for protection until it's next use and moulding their 'plug', they then pushed the 1oz moulding back into the mould, along with all the dust, grit and shite that was stuck to it. this scratched the mould nicely, and meant a load of work was needed on it before they could build my boat.
Just to add insult to injury, they then claimed to have never made any boats from the design, so sorry, but no royalties (there was no charge for the initial use of the mould for the plug, just a deal to 'pay as you build')

I took some photos of a complete Tornado 9.5 in Cowes in about 2000, the owner told me there was about 6 examples of 'his model' at the time. I gave the pictures to Steve and he contacted Tornado. They agreed they had actually made a few boats and promised to cough up,...they never did...nice.
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Old 27-03-2008, 11:53 PM   #9
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bit of a scam for some one to pull. hope he got his money back. i always get amased by the boat building industry. it gets a bit cut throat at times.
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Old 28-03-2008, 12:20 AM   #10
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Steve Baker never saw a single penny from Tornado.

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Old 02-04-2008, 08:47 PM   #11
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What about the smaller Tornados? Were these similarly based on Steve Baker's designs?
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