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14-01-2006, 03:56 AM
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uk boat builders??
think this question aimed at our uk friends this time ans is the uk version of a previous thread....
Which is the toughest built, best riding rough water hull our side of the pond??
In the 24-36ft range, new or old...
come on what we got... hunton?? shakespeare?? phantom?? i dunno u tell me
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14-01-2006, 08:37 AM
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Ali built- don shead - offshots were the CUV for thr larger boats
Gee was a great rough water boat IMHO
Smaller stuff is difficult as it depends what period as things come into vouge & go out again. Many are very capable. Forgecraft, Frode, Manfelt, Phantom, ring
bloody good question
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14-01-2006, 09:46 AM
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numbskull
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Yeah, but 'Gee' only did 40 odd mph, that's virtually semi-displacement for a boat that big.
But otherwise I agree, Don Shead design CUV, or even the Comer marine 52 footer 'Debenhams'/'Shockwave', which I was lucky enough to race in a couple of times, not terribly quick in original format (93mph) but a monster in the real rough.
Or if we wanna keep away from the one-offs, the Planatech 40 ('Double 2 Shirts'), also a Shead design, was excellent in the rough. (Glassfibre, from a mould)
Getting smaller, obviously i'd vote for the Phantom 28 & 31, and mebbe the Hunton 28 too, but that aint as quick.
I'm sure there are stacks more........Is that a trumpet I hear blowing in the distance?
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14-01-2006, 09:48 AM
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Errrrrrrr drop the bat boat & frode as they not UK dolt !!!!!
Just by the no of race victories in the rougher conditions the Phantom in it's various guises was pretty successful, but in it's day so was the Marshan and the stapley (monos & Cats)
True Gee wasn't quick It did the same speed whatever force 1 or storm 10 !!!!!!. Guess it a hold over from when your sitting out there beating yourself to bits soaking wet and cold and it just glides by looking like they are having drinks......... Thoughts always passed to "Should be in that today"
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14-01-2006, 10:01 AM
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numbskull
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Re-reading the question, if we're talking British 'Production' boats up to 36', the Hunton Maverick 34/Thorobred 36/37 (all the same thing really) has to be top contender, not my fave looking boat, but very capable.
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15-01-2006, 10:32 PM
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Whats a Thorobred 36/37 never heard of that one.
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15-01-2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Dunaruna
Whats a Thorobred 36/37 never heard of that one.
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UK company 'Hunton' build fast sports cruisers & race boats. The Maverick 34/Thoroghbred 36 are basically the same boat, in the case of the 36, they include the bathing platform in the boat length (American trick )
Mav 34:
The top white one has just been re-engined with 496HO's, re-rigged and fitted out, and it appears it's for sale, at 65k (GBP) which sounds very cheap to me, considering the work thats just been done.
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15-01-2006, 11:19 PM
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#2 Thoroghbred 36/7
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15-01-2006, 11:37 PM
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Ok Thanks, thats a new one to Me.
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16-01-2006, 06:25 AM
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hunton
talking to them at southampton boat show they can fit the new d6 350 s in, which gets a move on, great looking boat saw the white one a cobbs looked very tidy.
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16-01-2006, 06:27 AM
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sunseeker hawk 34
very good in the rough
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16-01-2006, 07:42 AM
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Bladerunner ? Didn't a big one of those just get the round Britain record ?
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16-01-2006, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
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Bladerunner ? Didn't a big one of those just get the round Britain record ?
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Yes it was a 53'
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16-01-2006, 10:07 AM
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Does the bladerunner not figure the new 35 looked great at the boat show, now with 6 seats and some accomodation!
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16-01-2006, 04:51 PM
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have we really got so few a good boats to shout about!!
jon isnt that the same hunton hull as icelandic johns rib??
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16-01-2006, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
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jon isnt that the same hunton hull as icelandic johns rib??
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Yeah, the 34/36 hull is what John Lindsays rib is based on.
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16-01-2006, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
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have we really got so few a good boats to shout about!!
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remember, there are only 3 different hulls in the USA, 99% of them are based on the Cigarette.
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19-01-2006, 10:26 PM
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Is that IT!
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20-01-2006, 01:26 PM
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Returning to the original question did you guys forget Cougar for some purpose?
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20-01-2006, 02:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MikeyFIN
Returning to the original question did you guys forget Cougar for some purpose?
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Very good point!
Although the smallest offshore mono they did in production, is I think the US1-38, so slightly outside the original question. dunno how I forgot them, I love the US1's
Of course they build the 25/27 footer now used for racing in the Honda 225 class, but we wont go there.
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