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08-06-2005, 01:51 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Sumat like that.
Charles liked the company so much, he bought it!
At Windermere one year, Charles was trying to set a new LPG powered speed record, he blew a good few motors, and when he'd run out, he ordered Mark (Pascoe) to have Smilin Jack 'over-night' three motors over from the US, he would then have his Heli pilot collect them from Heathrow, and fly them up to Windermere.
They arrived Friday morning (last day of record runs), at a cost that I can't begin to imagine, when Mark took his crow bar to the crate, and popped the lid off, it contained three totaly f*cked powerheads that Mark had sent over to SJ's the week before!....oooops!
A few red faces at Smilin Jacks that week I expect!
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08-06-2005, 02:02 PM
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Boat Designer
Interests: sport
Boat name: Santana
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warsash
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Charles Burnett, Skater 28, Class II
eneded up holding class II speed rekord @137mph
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That was with three heavily worked 2.5s on it. Did not look quite so good with the three engines on a choppy day!
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08-06-2005, 02:05 PM
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Boat Designer
Interests: sport
Boat name: Santana
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warsash
Posts: 1,838
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Onto 28 Skaters - this has to be one of the best seen - set-up / rigging / performance - all spot on.
Esso Ultron (second one I think) in 6 litre
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08-06-2005, 02:57 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Boat make: Argocat 23
Engines: Optimax 200xs
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 14
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Do they still race with the Bat 28 who won the 1995 4 l World championship?? I think the driver was Max Walker.
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08-06-2005, 03:05 PM
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Are they motors that taz & roofer now have?
Quote:
Originally posted by Adam
That was with three heavily worked 2.5s on it. Did not look quite so good with the three engines on a choppy day!
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08-06-2005, 03:11 PM
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#26
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Registered User
Location: hayling island
Boat name: snow monkey
Boat make: extreme 24
Engines: mercruiser 6.2
Join Date: May 2004
Location: hayling island
Posts: 2,082
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Quote:
Originally posted by C-88
Do they still race with the Bat 28 who won the 1995 4 l World championship?? I think the driver was Max Walker.
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i last saw that boat at marin nautic in poole,last year, at the back of the workshop,,max still owned it then,dont know if its still there
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08-06-2005, 03:28 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Boat Designer
Interests: sport
Boat name: Santana
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warsash
Posts: 1,838
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Quote:
Originally posted by C-88
Do they still race with the Bat 28 who won the 1995 4 l World championship?? I think the driver was Max Walker.
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Was racing upto a couple of years ago - and still very quick - but then suffered some pretty major structural problems. It could be repaired - but would take some work.
There was a rumour that it was going to be used as plug / development boat for a new V28 class - based on the V24 concept - but guess this is less likely now.
Adam
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08-06-2005, 03:41 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Boat make: Argocat 23
Engines: Optimax 200xs
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 14
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Quote:
Originally posted by Adam
Was racing upto a couple of years ago - and still very quick - but then suffered some pretty major structural problems. It could be repaired - but would take some work.
There was a rumour that it was going to be used as plug / development boat for a new V28 class - based on the V24 concept - but guess this is less likely now.
Adam
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Okey Thank you.
I see that you are racing in the 2 l class are you coming to the WC in Sweden next year???
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08-06-2005, 03:48 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Boat Designer
Interests: sport
Boat name: Santana
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warsash
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Certainly hope so - was there last year spectating and holidaying. Had a fantastic time - hired a boat and travelled through the Archipelago - beautiful and had a fantastic time. Would love to come back with the race boat - but going to have to save some weight and pick-up some more speed!
We are going to race a full season this year and do the Worlds in Italy - but looking at finishing racing after that - just cannot afford the time or money any more!
However if I still have the boat (likely) - then I would aim to do the worlds each year as that is what really excites me nowadays.
Are you going to Italy this year?
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08-06-2005, 04:02 PM
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Registered User
Country: Sweden
Boat make: Argocat 23
Engines: Optimax 200xs
Join Date: May 2005
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No we are not going to Italy we are still not finished with the boat so we are just going to race in the Swedish championship and maybe one race in Norway.
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09-06-2005, 10:27 AM
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Boat Designer
Interests: sport
Boat name: Santana
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warsash
Posts: 1,838
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One more for today, Yann Cadoret (hopefully correct spelling) in his 24 Skater.
A very interesting competitor, who did not let being wheelchair bound slow him down at all.
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09-06-2005, 10:33 AM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally posted by Adam
A very interesting competitor, who did not let being wheelchair bound slow him down at all.
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It didn't stop him throwing the contents of race control all about the room either!......NO mr scrutineer, you can't strip my motors down you 'rost beef'!......I will not have my event ruined by you............Max, have you got any 'Charlie' spare?
What an event!
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09-06-2005, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member
Country: England
Location: Warsash
Occupation: Boat Designer
Interests: sport
Boat name: Santana
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Warsash
Posts: 1,838
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
It didn't stop him throwing the contents of race control all about the room either!......NO mr scrutineer, you can't strip my motors down you 'rost beef'!......I will not have my event ruined by you............Max, have you got any 'Charlie' spare?
What an event!
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Some memories from that event:
Yann Cadoret having big Wiseco stcikers on his boat and then being surprised at his engines being questioned
When Max was tested and dq'd - asked his navigator what drugs showed up - he said "easier to say what didn't"
Charles Burnett and his woman on a dog lead
And the list goes on
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09-06-2005, 11:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,891
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Is this a right?
Looking at the UIM rules for classes 3c, 3d & 3s (including the new EPA categories), old 3d & 3s allowed up to 4l and 6l respectively, with no horsepower specification (although subject to being a homolageted engine of course). The new epa rules are specifing up to 6l & 400hp for 3d, and exactly the same for 3s?
Plus, the minimum weight across the classes has increased for the EPA category - in 3d a cat min weight was 1250kg. With EPA it's now 1600kg.
Is there an amount of 'dumbing down' going on? Or is this an attempt to funnel people toward canopied boats without giving an uncanopied boat a weight advantage? (4l monos can still run without canopies, 4l cats and all 6l need canopies).
http://www.uimpowerboating.com/vsite...-0-file,00.pdf
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09-06-2005, 12:06 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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Quote:
Originally posted by Adam
Some memories from that event:
Charles Burnett and his woman on a dog lead
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Oh yes, the large breasted monster!
And also 'Quiver', John Millers Scarab 38 conecting with the quayside a little too fast, giving it a sort of bloody nose.
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09-06-2005, 12:13 PM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,291
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Sumat like that.
Charles liked the company so much, he bought it!
At Windermere one year, Charles was trying to set a new LPG powered speed record, he blew a good few motors, and when he'd run out, he ordered Mark (Pascoe) to have Smilin Jack 'over-night' three motors over from the US, he would then have his Heli pilot collect them from Heathrow, and fly them up to Windermere.
They arrived Friday morning (last day of record runs), at a cost that I can't begin to imagine, when Mark took his crow bar to the crate, and popped the lid off, it contained three totaly f*cked powerheads that Mark had sent over to SJ's the week before!....oooops!
A few red faces at Smilin Jacks that week I expect!
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thats made me chuckle
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12-06-2005, 05:21 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Location: the narf
Occupation: give up
Interests: triple rigs
Boat name: which one
Boat make: 25 phantom 26 puma cat,30 pima cat,25 phantom 30 flipper,
Engines: triple 2.5 efis
Cruising area: blackpool prom at dusk
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the narf
Posts: 244
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Quote:
Originally posted by Adam
heavily modified version
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first mods done 1991 half canopys and cells.
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12-06-2005, 05:28 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Location: the narf
Occupation: give up
Interests: triple rigs
Boat name: which one
Boat make: 25 phantom 26 puma cat,30 pima cat,25 phantom 30 flipper,
Engines: triple 2.5 efis
Cruising area: blackpool prom at dusk
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the narf
Posts: 244
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
Mmnn, I shit myself in that boat! It ran 111mph in 6 litre, and at that speed, it felt about 6 feet long!
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know what you mean,we put 2.5 on papa kilo and did 6 litre worlds in argentina 92,thats when rob decided to add 5 foot to it.
hospitality is at bottom of my yard if any body interested,still hold national 4 litre record 93.93 windermere 1999,all it needs is pair of motors,still rigged on trailer .
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02-07-2018, 03:10 PM
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#39
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Dustyflight
Country: Jersey CI
Location: Jersey
Occupation: Co Director
Interests: Boating,Flying,Sport
Boat name: MillerTime
Boat make: Princes 45 flybridge
Engines: Volvo 480s
Cruising area: Channel Islands/ northern France
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Jersey
Posts: 1
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Fat Cat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
Thanks for filling in the history Jon - was trying to remeber the name of Rob Mills boat! Fat Cat - wasn't it owned by Jason Mucklow?
Anyway here is a familiar one for you.
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Hi, you are quite right Jason Mucklow did own Fat Cat then bought by me Paul Miller . I raced it with Jason’s sister Tracy for a number of years ( now Mrs Miller)
Then we sold it to Rob Mills . Good to hear he still has it.
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18-04-2019, 10:54 PM
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustyflight
Hi, you are quite right Jason Mucklow did own Fat Cat then bought by me Paul Miller . I raced it with Jason’s sister Tracy for a number of years ( now Mrs Miller)
Then we sold it to Rob Mills . Good to hear he still has it.
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Dad ( Rob ) hasn’t had the boat for quite some time now unfortunately, still talks about it on a regular basis, we think he loved it more than he loves us haha.
He was absolutely heartbroken to hear it had been sold without his knowledge, permission or chance to reclaim from a yard it was being kept on.
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