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19-01-2006, 10:38 AM
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numbskull
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Here's a bit of fun.
Courtesy of 'Ciao', who recorded and uploaded it for us.
Here's a bit powerboat racing, Howards Way style, from 1988.
Thanks John
http://media.boatmad.com/videos/howardsway.wmv
Poor old Leo!
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19-01-2006, 01:34 PM
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Guest
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I loved Howards Way.
Cheesy acting though
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19-01-2006, 02:25 PM
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Oohh, the hairstyles, the clothes, the terrible terrible acting. Howards Way RIP please........! Thanks for that slice of nostalgia though.
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19-01-2006, 02:44 PM
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ah the evil ken masters!!!,now if leo had been in a marshan!!!!
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19-01-2006, 06:02 PM
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couple of the chics were ok
the racing was crap, a cat out cornering a mono?
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19-01-2006, 06:08 PM
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Yep, Done it to Colin Sleap on more than one occasion. But depends on the boat. This thing in the Avtar you trimmed it in got some got leverage then give it some welly & it would hook round aka circuit cat.
Bit to much like it really....... lost intrest after about the 6th time I holed it !!!!
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19-01-2006, 06:20 PM
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theres always a trade off
we prefer to keep our cat flying, go a bit wider but keep the speed up and the 2.5's revving
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20-01-2006, 10:13 AM
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OMG, the eyeliner, the hi-lites, and that´s just the men......
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20-01-2006, 10:29 AM
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numbskull
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Quote:
Originally posted by kiwiracer
the racing was crap, a cat out cornering a mono?
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When I raced in 'Hospitality inns', I was always gobsmacked at how quick it turned. held you tight in the side of your seat.
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20-01-2006, 07:43 PM
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Ya just can't beat that classic 80's acting..
poor old "Leo" should have changed the filters on the first race
as for ken ...what an
reminded me of another (Car based) 80's classic "Driving Ambition" although you would need to be 40 or over to remember that one
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20-01-2006, 08:41 PM
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The Doc
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Is it wrong of me to have fallen in love with that 25?
well, 2nd to Leo of course!
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20-01-2006, 08:53 PM
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Great video - some pretty good action shots!!!
So generally speaking in offshore racing which turns tighter - a cat or a mono???
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20-01-2006, 10:03 PM
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I can only speak from my experience.
If the conditions are pretty flat, Geoffs cat (Hospitality Inns) turned very quick indeed, and I reckon it'd be hard to stay with it in a mono. remember tho' we're talking about 90mph Offshore boats here. If you look at OCR, those boats turn incredibly quick, virtually hook through the turns. but we're talking much smaller, tight circuit machines. Would value someone like 'Old Beardy' to pitch in here.
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22-01-2006, 04:45 AM
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Trivia muck!
Trivia. (For those on the Forum who haven’t heard it before!)
Howard’s Way was originally going to be based around a powerboat racing family – not sailing, (Powerboat Racing was only brought into it in the 3rd season.) The BBC sent some valid scriptwriters (Ex Dr. Who etc.) up to the 1982 Windermere Record Week to get some ideas; they talked to my parents and Pennpromo up in the Lakes, got some story ideas and were promptly taken off the project!
The Phantom 25 you see in the vid clip is Gina Campbell’s first offshore race boat, Agfa Bluebird.
The sign writing on the front of “Leo’s” P25 shows “La Colinette”, which is an hotel in Guernsey. It is owned by Andrew Chambers, who was racing the boat in 3d at the time.
The Puma Cat, (Ken’s boat), was built by Paul Hicks to a design by Joe Donahue, it was the “fore runner” to Hospitality Inns as mentioned by JF in this thread.
After Powerboat Racing was shown on Howard’s Way to 8 million viewers on a Sunday night in 1989 boat racing entries subsequently decreased thereafter!
Leo, played by Edward Highmore, did very little stuff after Howard’s Way. but his son played Charlie, in the Hollywood smash Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in 2004
The commentator you can here on the clip is of Brian Jones, known as the "The Voice or Brands Hatch"
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23-01-2006, 08:28 AM
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Yes, I recall talking to the scriptwritesr in Windermere:
The Phantom, Andrew Chamber's boat was driven for all the action shots by Micky Phillips, now the Yamaha dealer for Gurnsey, (Sunsport Marine), as he was looking after the boat at the time.
John Yeoman's cat was sponsored by Unipart, a friend of mine happend to be the finance director of Unipart and he said that in tems of exposure it was the best sponsorship deal they ever did !
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23-01-2006, 11:57 AM
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The Doc
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I liked agfa in the blue
its wicked in the green
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23-01-2006, 08:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
I can only speak from my experience.
If the conditions are pretty flat, Geoffs cat (Hospitality Inns) turned very quick indeed, and I reckon it'd be hard to stay with it in a mono. remember tho' we're talking about 90mph Offshore boats here. If you look at OCR, those boats turn incredibly quick, virtually hook through the turns. but we're talking much smaller, tight circuit machines. Would value someone like 'Old Beardy' to pitch in here.
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Sorry I have been away from the forum for a week so I have just read the tread. I can only comment on my experience in monos as I have never driven a cat. In OCR obviously with multi laps and up to 8 corners a lap, cornering is just as important as having a quick boat, probably more so now with the shorter courses OCR are now running.
We started out with a 19 Marshan but found that we could not corner anywhere near as fast as the Rings and Phantoms so we changed to a P20. Once we had got it sorted it cornered reasonably well but not as quick as the P18`s. My other half raced a Ring 16 then an Argo 19 in 1.3ltr OCR and they were both awesome on the turns (it could have been her lunatic tendancies!) We then changed to the P18 and found a great difference, they are amazing boats. I also navigated for Bob McCarthy out in Deauville in his Bernico 19 and was very impressed with its capabilities. I also did a season in a P16 which again cornered like it was on rails. We ripped the floor out of it twice by cornering a little too hard!
Last season was our first in 2ltr offshore and we found that the P21 was certainly a match for our competitors on the corners. Of course there was only two cats running in the British season last year, so it would be difficult to make too many comparisons. Sorry I cannot help further.
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