Boatmad.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 13-11-2012, 04:27 PM   #1
Registered User
 
littlenige's Avatar
 
Country: Spain

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,721
Key West - a few vids

Skip to 2 mins 10 seconds:-


Man those lamborghini's (races start at around 3 min 30)


Worth a browse!
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPmV...?feature=watch

__________________

littlenige is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-11-2012, 04:36 PM   #2
Registered User
 
littlenige's Avatar
 
Country: Spain

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,721
Woah!!!!!! Great shot of the italian team.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	536443_518717874806748_1008185751_n.jpg
Views:	273
Size:	93.1 KB
ID:	36930  
__________________

littlenige is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-11-2012, 01:31 PM   #3
Steve
 
Country: UK
Location: Wootton Bridge, IOW
Occupation: Quality Assurance Auditor
Interests: Powerboat Enthusiast
Boat name: Orashi
Boat make: Shetland 21
Engines: 55
Cruising area: Solent

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Wootton Bridge, IOW
Posts: 150
Key West 2012 new vid

The yanks now how to get the crowds for there powerboat racing events. Listen to the crowds, the kids etc. there loving it.
What are we doing wrong!!!
What do we need to do/have? apart from money!

__________________
Not missed a C-T-C in 35 years (1977 -2012)
36 races
woottonwillis153 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-11-2012, 07:48 PM   #4
Registered User
 
Location: Reading
Occupation: Automotive parts Distribution
Boat make: Hunton 36

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Reading
Posts: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by woottonwillis153 View Post
The yanks now how to get the crowds for there powerboat racing events. Listen to the crowds, the kids etc. there loving it.
What are we doing wrong!!!
What do we need to do/have? apart from money!
Remember few years back going to Plymouth to watch the Class 1 boats with support from the Honda series. The sound of lambo engines was amazing.
Amazing venue. The Hoe was packed solid with people watching and the advantage of Plymouth was you could see the whole race course.
Ian H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-11-2012, 08:06 PM   #5
Registered User
 
peterunwin's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: East Mids
Occupation: MD hydraulic/engineering company
Interests: Fast cars, bikes,quads, boats, going fast...etc
Boat name: Cheetah
Boat make: Hunton XRS37
Engines: Volvo D6 with DPR drives
Cruising area: So'hampton

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: East Mids
Posts: 556
Quote:
Originally Posted by woottonwillis153 View Post
The yanks now how to get the crowds for there powerboat racing events. Listen to the crowds, the kids etc. there loving it.
What are we doing wrong!!!
What do we need to do/have? apart from money!

Hi woottonwillis,
We have been coming to Key West worlds for the last few years it could not be more different than England, the organisers and competitors alike actively encourage spectator presence, there are very few restricted areas, its a real pleasure to walk round the paddock everyone is very friendly. They even build grandstands so you can get the best possible view.
Until the british organisers and competitors do something similar there won't be much of a spectator following.

Peter
peterunwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-11-2012, 10:41 AM   #6
Registered User
 
littlenige's Avatar
 
Country: Spain

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,721
Peter I agree with you wholeheartedly about the spectator thing and the US scene. I was lucky enough to go three times in the 90's and what struck me was how many references were made to 'The Fans'. Even the local motels like Hampton Inn etc had 'Welcome Race fans' on their big billboard outside! It felt good to be recognised and acknowledged, for unless I win the lottery I will forever be just a spectator/photographer and not a participant (boo!).

I think the problem is that there are those who will always hold out for the old school long distance CTC courses where men (and the ladies of course) and machines are put to the test. Then there are those who prefer to see more of the race itself a la Cowes in 2007 or Key West. I have to admit that it was seeing the amazing photographs of the 2007 event which led me to come back to the race, even though that type of course has not been run since. I've loved every second of being there for every race since even though the event was well and truly offshore - for those privileged to get close enough it's still an amazing spectacle.

That 2007 event at Cowes I suspect was watched by a large number of spectators ashore - can anyone confirm that? Just curious. The fact that several members of my own family made the trip to Cowes to watch makes me think that because it was an inshore course, many more people than normal made the effort to attend and watch. Good for potential sponsors!!
littlenige is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 01:07 AM   #7
Registered User
 
Country: UK
Location: Bristol
Occupation: Motor Trade
Interests: Boats
Boat name: Electrifying
Boat make: Pascoe SR9
Engines: 2x 2.5 EFI
Cruising area: South Coast

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Bristol
Posts: 17
Quote:
The yanks now how to get the crowds for there powerboat racing events. Listen to the crowds, the kids etc. there loving it.
What are we doing wrong!!!
What do we need to do/have? apart from money!

The weather may have a lot to do with it, 80F+ and almost garanteed racing because of a reef that keeps the big swells from generating. That said the racing was not that entertaining, we saw three races on Friday of no more than twenty min's each, 10:30, 12:30 and 14:00. Sunday was double the distance but with five to seven boats in each class very few of which were competitive it was not gripping stuff and from the stand most of the spectators were either crew or family of current or past racers. Much more of a draw was the poker run boats, 140 Cicaretts, Outer limits, MYIs, Nor-tecs, Statements etc and the toys they brought with them.
Martin Purnell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 02:25 AM   #8
Registered User
 
Ciao's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Great Horwood

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Great Horwood
Posts: 2,372
Send a message via Skype™ to Ciao
Quote:
Originally Posted by littlenige View Post

That 2007 event at Cowes I suspect was watched by a large number of spectators ashore - can anyone confirm that? Just curious. The fact that several members of my own family made the trip to Cowes to watch makes me think that because it was an inshore course, many more people than normal made the effort to attend and watch.
It was very warm and sunny in 2007 for the P1 and Honda Racing at Cowes, plenty of tourists on the Island.

The Event was also helped by the cash input - £265,000 from P1 and Honda money.
Ciao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 02:37 AM   #9
Registered User
 
Ciao's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Great Horwood

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Great Horwood
Posts: 2,372
Send a message via Skype™ to Ciao
ERROR!

P1 paid £275,000

Honda circa £50,000
Ciao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 07:56 AM   #10
BananaShark Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciao View Post
ERROR!

P1 paid £275,000

Honda circa £50,000
I would imagine a lot of the P1 money went into their "Village" and their own promotion and the same result could have been achieved with much less in terms of "putting on a show"?

I was in Key West in 2005 and enjoyed it very much although I have to agree with Martin to a point - having said that we watched the race from beside the hotel pool (thanks to Tony Hamilton) and it was packed there and in Mallory square with the public.
__________________
Cookee



British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)

www.bananasharkracing.com
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 08:37 AM   #11
Registered User
 
littlenige's Avatar
 
Country: Spain

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,721
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciao View Post
ERROR!

P1 paid £275,000

Honda circa £50,000
Devil's Advocate here - that's a huge amount of money. I wonder if they would have paid such a sum if the course had been outside of the Solent and non multi-lap?

I wonder if the difference of opinion that often occurs in such discussions about the true offshore courses and those like Key West/Cowes 2007, are based on whether you are a racer or spectator?? Curious!
littlenige is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 02:19 PM   #12
Registered User
 
Ciao's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Great Horwood

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Great Horwood
Posts: 2,372
Send a message via Skype™ to Ciao
Quote:
Originally Posted by littlenige View Post
Devil's Advocate here - that's a huge amount of money. I wonder if they would have paid such a sum if the course had been outside of the Solent and non multi-lap?

I wonder if the difference of opinion that often occurs in such discussions about the true offshore courses and those like Key West/Cowes 2007, are based on whether you are a racer or spectator?? Curious!
You just need a Sugar Daddy with an huge ego and wallet to match, who is prepared to throw in the money.

For every Bernie Ecclestone, there are at least an hundred that run out of dough.
Ciao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 02:58 PM   #13
BananaShark Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by littlenige View Post
Devil's Advocate here - that's a huge amount of money. I wonder if they would have paid such a sum if the course had been outside of the Solent and non multi-lap?
The racing that year was to the established P1 format which was specifically designed for the public so it was only every going to be with that format - It is my belief that with onboard technology such as that seen in the current rally cars as well as helicopter cameras and on screen graphics you could make races such as Cowes Torquay very interesting indeed, you only have to look at the Yellow Brick track to see how many times the positions changed as a result of the different routes everyone took over or around Lyme Bay together with the technical difficulties to see how you could make it interesting.

The only problem is paying for it in the first place!
__________________
Cookee



British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)

www.bananasharkracing.com
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 03:13 PM   #14
Registered User
 
littlenige's Avatar
 
Country: Spain

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,721
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee View Post
The racing that year was to the established P1 format which was specifically designed for the public so it was only every going to be with that format - It is my belief that with onboard technology such as that seen in the current rally cars as well as helicopter cameras and on screen graphics you could make races such as Cowes Torquay very interesting indeed, you only have to look at the Yellow Brick track to see how many times the positions changed as a result of the different routes everyone took over or around Lyme Bay together with the technical difficulties to see how you could make it interesting.

The only problem is paying for it in the first place!
Absolutely! Would be fantastic if the technology advances of this day and age enabled onlookers to almost be onboard. Watching the footage from War Horse online afterwards was like partaking in the race itself. All boils down to the same old thing though unfortunately!
littlenige is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 03:17 PM   #15
Registered User
 
Ciao's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Great Horwood

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Great Horwood
Posts: 2,372
Send a message via Skype™ to Ciao
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee View Post
The racing that year was to the established P1 format which was specifically designed for the public so it was only every going to be with that format - It is my belief that with onboard technology such as that seen in the current rally cars as well as helicopter cameras and on screen graphics you could make races such as Cowes Torquay very interesting indeed, you only have to look at the Yellow Brick track to see how many times the positions changed as a result of the different routes everyone took over or around Lyme Bay together with the technical difficulties to see how you could make it interesting.

The only problem is paying for it in the first place!
Technology is certainly the way forward.

The 2008 Round Britain race used Marinetrack, and for the first time, people sitting in front of their desks could see the raceboats racing from leg to leg.

Since 2009 we have used Yellowbrick for Marathon races, back in '09 it was ideal, now I feel they are too expensive, their web feed needs updating.

Competition will dictate who gets the contract for Cowes Torquay Cowes 2013.
Ciao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 03:46 PM   #16
BananaShark Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
Interests: Winning races
Boat name: BananaShark
Boat make: BananaShark 34' Race
Engines: Twin Yanmar BY 260's

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Posts: 4,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciao View Post
Technology is certainly the way forward.

The 2008 Round Britain race used Marinetrack, and for the first time, people sitting in front of their desks could see the raceboats racing from leg to leg.

Since 2009 we have used Yellowbrick for Marathon races, back in '09 it was ideal, now I feel they are too expensive, their web feed needs updating.

Competition will dictate who gets the contract for Cowes Torquay Cowes 2013.
The technology is moving very quickly now and some systems allow so much more than Yellowbrick - looking forward to seeing how that works out.
__________________
Cookee



British Champions! RIB Formula 1 2005
National Speed Record Holder at 90.15 (still)

www.bananasharkracing.com
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 05:04 PM   #17
Registered User
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,368
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciao View Post
It was very warm and sunny in 2007 for the P1 and Honda Racing at Cowes, plenty of tourists on the Island.

The Event was also helped by the cash input - £265,000 from P1 and Honda money.
What did they spend that amount of money on in 2007

I remember talking to the chinese resturant owner on the front and I believe it cost him 4 grand for his stall to be in the village.
hunton69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 05:07 PM   #18
Registered User
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,368
[QUOTE=woottonwillis153;228140]The yanks now how to get the crowds for there powerboat racing events. Listen to the crowds, the kids etc. there loving it.
What are we doing wrong!!!
What do we need to do/have? apart from money!

You only have to look at the video for the answers.

Do the RYA get involved over there
hunton69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2012, 05:21 PM   #19
Registered User
 
Ciao's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Great Horwood

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Great Horwood
Posts: 2,372
Send a message via Skype™ to Ciao
Quote:
Originally Posted by hunton69 View Post
What did they spend that amount of money on in 2007.
I will give you a break down of costs on here next week mate, clearly it would have been another £20 k if you were enjoying their hospitality.
Ciao is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2012, 08:52 AM   #20
Registered User
 
littlenige's Avatar
 
Country: Spain

Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,721
And back to the vids - oh yeah!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...v=vvPNjiQXo1s#!
__________________

littlenige is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×