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Old 14-01-2006, 05:09 AM   #1
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project and a half

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Old 14-01-2006, 09:02 PM   #2
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Doesnt look to be that bad, more dirty than anything else.
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Old 15-01-2006, 12:42 AM   #3
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The last time I saw that boat advertised, they weren't sure it was a cigarette. I don't know enough abut cigarette's to make a judgement call myself.
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Old 15-01-2006, 10:34 AM   #4
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Its definitely not a 40' Cigarette. The hull is the wrong shape. It has no step up towards the rear of the deck. If it is a cigarette, it is more probably a 35' or a 37'. Though it might even be a Scarab similar to Paul Clauser / Betty Cook.
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Old 15-01-2006, 11:11 AM   #5
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Yeah, the bigger Sigs (40) had quite a step in the gunnel didn't they. of course, the add could well be wrong, and it's shorter than 40.
So many yank boats of that era (and later) shared that running surface and top sides, it's hard to know what your looking at!

Freeboard looks pretty low too, rather like the earlier Sigs, but it has the crease half way up the topsides like the later models, so who knows!
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Old 15-01-2006, 02:59 PM   #6
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Yeah, the bigger Sigs (40) had quite a step in the gunnel didn't they. of course, the add could well be wrong, and it's shorter than 40.
So many yank boats of that era (and later) shared that running surface and top sides, it's hard to know what your looking at!

Freeboard looks pretty low too, rather like the earlier Sigs, but it has the crease half way up the topsides like the later models, so who knows!
I was wondering whether it is the old 37' Peter Stuyvesant Boat. It seem to disappear off the face of the earth after MLD went broke. Obviously if it is, it has been redecked at some stage. I don't know of any other 37' or 35' that were raced by brits in this country.
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Old 15-01-2006, 10:48 PM   #7
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Looks like a Cig to me.
A bit of TLC and a few Quid would do her proud!
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Old 16-01-2006, 01:03 AM   #8
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If it's a Cigarette the hull identification # will start with CRT
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Old 16-01-2006, 04:57 PM   #9
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anyone know where it lives and where cig but hull numbers?? could send in a covert operation team
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Old 16-01-2006, 08:23 PM   #10
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The boat is a Squadron XII 39 hull no starts with an XEX, differs from a Cigarette only by having wider running strakes and thus giving a rougher ride which neither Bobby Saccenti or Don Aronow himself liked.
The mold was scrapped after Don bought Cig back in 1983 , This boat is a 81 by the hull no.
Otherwise looks identical to a 39 Cig and is a Aronow for what its worth.
Rumor has that when Don sold Cigarette he didnt include in the list of sale some molds the 39 being one, its a stretch of 35 Mistress with a goofed up center of gravity like every stretch.

Needs Tons of LOOT and CASH....
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Old 16-01-2006, 08:27 PM   #11
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Needs Tons of LOOT and CASH....
Don't they all!!

Welcome to boatmad 'MikeyFin' great first post.
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Old 16-01-2006, 08:39 PM   #12
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Yeah they sure do...

I was looking into this Squadron and a 38KV MV edition both projects but thought I better cool my head and get some real dough to buy a boat instead...ok Then Ill run head over heels over a bare 47 Apache or something
But honestly that Squadron need much more than the 38KV I mean it is stripped of everything.
For 55K euros you could get it running...for the same price you can buy running and complete Scarabs in Fine shape.
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Old 17-01-2006, 05:19 AM   #13
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Thanks for the info Mikey Fin.
sorted that one out.
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Old 17-01-2006, 08:53 AM   #14
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The tragedy of it all......................
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Old 17-01-2006, 11:55 AM   #15
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Yep ...got that right Nige...
If Id have the time and motivation Id gone and bought both of them. Kept the Squadron as a static too as its interior and Cockpit is just like an 35 Mistress...a Scarab has a WAY bigger interior...like at least 4 feet those feet you can find on the Squadron engine room & Sundeck.

I hate to see boats left to their fate...
Also when I see one I get interested about what the story is about the boat/model.
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Old 19-01-2006, 10:42 PM   #16
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How about this one 30 year 35 raised deck Cig.
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Old 20-01-2006, 11:49 AM   #17
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Whats in it?
Actually Im into 38-up sized boats as I need some space below deck too.
Plus some length to fit between the wavelenghts.
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Old 20-01-2006, 12:26 PM   #18
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Here we have the original powerplants old Merc HP 365s
boat more or less sound hull wise Built 1976 Awesome
a real*Aronow boat.
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Old 20-01-2006, 12:27 PM   #19
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Old 20-01-2006, 12:38 PM   #20
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Bigger photo needed. Good nik for an old one.
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