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Old 30-04-2006, 09:29 PM   #1
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Whats this ??

Anyone got any ideas what this is ?
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Old 30-04-2006, 09:43 PM   #3
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especially curious about the "sticky up thingy" on port side
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Old 30-04-2006, 10:11 PM   #4
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wot this

its a cornflake mixer .or fire wood for your next B/B/Q
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Old 30-04-2006, 10:22 PM   #5
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It looks like a Sorcerer to me, designed by Bill Maloney.

Later built in glassfibre, and marketed as Scorpio Sorcerers (smaller version raced in K class)
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Old 30-04-2006, 10:33 PM   #6
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CLASSIC 1960's SPEEDBOAT FOR RESTORATION

The seller sent you an invoice on 30-Apr-06 specifying the total payment amount.

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Old 30-04-2006, 10:41 PM   #7
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especially curious about the "sticky up thingy" on port side
wire & pulley steering hub.

You can see the wheel itself in the engine well.
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I think an inboard powered Sorcerer did the 'Round the Island' race about 5 or 6 years ago. It was immaculately prepared and it completed the race.
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i dont think its a sorcerer if it is it must be a one off because ive got one of the first ones which is 27 years old.

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i dont think its a sorcerer if it is it must be a one off because ive got one of the first ones which is 27 years old.

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I may be wrong, but the early Sorcerers were all 'one offs' built in timber, many were built by Rod Juffs, who now owns the only Phantom/Sorcerer 31 cruiser.
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the previous owner believes it to be 1960 or earlier

Hopefully i'll be able to find a few more clues after thursday, as that's when i pick it up

I'm just wondering how much of it will be left on the trailer after a 2hr trip from essex
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Tremlett, built in Topsham Devon?
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Does look like a cold moulded tremlett a few early ones were built in Exmouth before Topsham.
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It looks like a Sorcerer to me, designed by Bill Maloney
Quite correct Johnny.

Was the old boys 2nd boat. Not sure if thats the same one though. Was a thing called "flying Sorcerer". They were all hand built in timber a slightly smaller version was put in to production around the 15' mark in GRp most successful of these was "Bartonia X then Bartonia XX powered by a 115 OMC what was IIIC in those days IIID being 135's & 140'S IIIE being 4 ltr as we now know it.
Wood ones for the year & power were amazing in the rougher water. exellent seakeeping


See link: http://www.boatmad.com/forum/showthr...t=race+reports


6th post in thread to link of pic on page 4 of the report
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the previous owner believes it to be 1960 or earlier

Hopefully i'll be able to find a few more clues after thursday, as that's when i pick it up

I'm just wondering how much of it will be left on the trailer after a 2hr trip from essex
If there are any tell tail marks of yellow paint on the topside or a bridge previously fitted mid cockpit or any paint marks showing 136 on trailer or painted over on the hull its the old boys boat.

It is strong & well built you have a great classice if you do it.


There were only a few wood ones.
2 or 3 arount the 16' mark and a larger one which has been mentioned before., Rumor of a twin rig one but I dont recall seeing it from memory.
I would guess the year around 67- 70 ish not early 60's.
But bloody heck were going back to when I was aound 11-13 years old!!!!!!

It turns quite well as I do recall Bill Matcham breaking a cable pulley whilst running flat out with a 135 on the back between wandsworth & Putney Bridges, it went round very tight & didn't barrel roll but really hooked tight threw him right across the boat.
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Wasn't there a twin engine one called AGRO or Agro the Dog?
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Thats the one, think it was an IOM boat at some point. That was the twin rig . Well done Adam jogged a few dark cells there.


I recall the one the old boy had needed about 1 1/2" inches of of-set.

Have a look at the bottom of the transom just above the V see if there are two sets of plugged holes around 3/8ths in size thats where the thrust block was mounted then moved.

eeekkkkk Thrust blocks who remembers them !!!!
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Thanks for all the replies ..

Jon & BluFin you deffinatley put me on the right track with the "Sorcerer"

They have a website http://www.sorcererboats.com/ checkout the "History" page.
Going by the pictures i have it looks exactly like "Merlin" although although i am told it's only 12'6" as the hull looks nothing like the one above it....

Guess i'll have to wait till i get it home (hopefully he measured wrong !)
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:54 PM   #20
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I'm sure Bill would be keen to give any info he could on the boat & it's history, he's still very passionate. Do we know yet if it's a Rod Juffs build?
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