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Old 02-04-2007, 04:42 PM   #1
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big motor with economy

What sort of size motor can you go up to without getting the running costs of a v6 or paying loads for a new 4-stroke?
Really need to find something that would be suitable for a p21 but not too bad to run.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:58 PM   #2
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Suzuki 250 hp same price as a two stroke but 24lts hour at 5000 revs
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:35 PM   #3
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:23 PM   #4
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280 or 300 drag and plant a tree in a forest
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:26 PM   #5
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oh how i wish i was in the position for a 280/300 efi...
Gonna look into economical motors more this evenin on the net,
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:48 PM   #6
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Have the V6 but use it half as often?
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:53 PM   #7
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It's gonna be limited use anyway seein that I'm not 16 for another 12 days!
If an xr2 popped up soon I'd look into it because I want something decent to run in a couple of months.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:04 PM   #8
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XR2 on a 14ft Picton?

Dude! You've got bigger balls than me.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:09 PM   #9
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lol, i would if there wasn't a p21 within sight!
I asked Dad today if he reckoned the Picton would run alright in the Poker Run with a 90 but he didn't agree!
biggest we ever had on that was 75 but I'd at least give a 150 a shot for a laugh!
I think he's just mellowing out in his old age!
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:20 PM   #10
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You'd have the only Picton 14 capable of vertical take-off. The Navy might buy it off you!
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:23 PM   #11
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It'd certainly be the first 80mph picton with involuntary detachable transom!
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:30 PM   #12
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If you are looking for something for the 21' got to be an XR2 cheap as chips loads of 2nd user bits about.
save ya pennies & spend as little as possible stick with something around the 50-70 mark, anything else puts it so far out of wack you will be spending for the sake of it, and your never use the extra ponies.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:32 PM   #13
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Would be nice but really aren't sure about the running costs, would only be able to manage a day out very couple of weeks, but then again a phantom isn't exactly a sensible boat! and any motor much smaller wouldn't really have the same effect!
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I think I peed off the Mercury rep at the boat show. He heard me remarking to my mate that I quite fancied the little 4hp outboard they do as it'd make my cappucinos nice and frothy.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:44 PM   #15
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so...I want around 150+hp either in a very cheap xr2 or something with better economy but still pretty cheap!
time to start browsin the web!
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:39 AM   #16
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would only be able to manage a day out every couple of weeks
thats all you get a chance of in the real world anyway
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:50 AM   #17
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Got an XR2 powerhead in the workshop - and I think Frenzy was selling an offshore leg - just the covers from Gav and you've got a motor!
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:23 AM   #18
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Ive got a complete xr2 in bits i'd sell at handy money, no damage just needs putting back together.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:16 AM   #19
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Change of plan, scrap that.
gettin p21 running for this season isn't likely, looks like picton fun and riding with dad on Poker Run!
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