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09-06-2007, 12:05 PM
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Country: uk
Location: surrey
Occupation: Railway staff
Boat make: P23, P21, R20, RingRanger 25, Sabre
Engines: 225promax, xr2, EFI tuned, 6.2 mercruiser, suzuki 140 lol
Cruising area: littlehampton
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Broken Already!
i cant belive it, i was biggin hill international and i get a call from dad floating around in the littlehampton/arun river entrance swearing down the phone! it apparently just conked out! and coughed into life enough just to get back, but apparently sounded as if only on one cyl!
got it out of the water and will not even turn over! now the last time this happened on the XR2 it costed 5 odd grand! chewed up a piston.
the day before running like a dream, best yet since i we got it.
but it might be fuel contamination (long story) does that sound possible??
to me it should still turnover, it would just not fire!?
anything i could look out for, under cowling? (btw i have no idea about mechanics apart from the basics lol)
cheers lewis
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09-06-2007, 12:18 PM
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Try taking the plugs out and put a socket on the flywheel and see if she turns. If it doesn't move then it sounds like it's siezed.
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09-06-2007, 12:36 PM
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5 Grand!!!!
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09-06-2007, 01:48 PM
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Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Boat make: Fletcher Arrowflyte
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Originally Posted by insane_lewis
anything i could look out for
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New dad?
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09-06-2007, 01:59 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: surrey
Occupation: Railway staff
Boat make: P23, P21, R20, RingRanger 25, Sabre
Engines: 225promax, xr2, EFI tuned, 6.2 mercruiser, suzuki 140 lol
Cruising area: littlehampton
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yeah supplied and fitted by adrian cronk. but why would it of seized if it was running so so well the day before!? humming perfectly it was?? im confused!
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09-06-2007, 02:07 PM
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Location: redhill
Occupation: data manager
Boat name: salamis
Boat make: cheetah (not that cat thing), Invicta Jupiter 5.0
Engines: I/B VP
Cruising area: littlehampton
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What about oil level - got any?
If Adrian fixed it already ring his number and ask him to take a look at it. He can at least tell you what the problem is. Hes a good mate, and very sympathetic to problems on engines he's worked on.
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09-06-2007, 03:04 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: surrey
Occupation: Railway staff
Boat make: P23, P21, R20, RingRanger 25, Sabre
Engines: 225promax, xr2, EFI tuned, 6.2 mercruiser, suzuki 140 lol
Cruising area: littlehampton
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sorry should have said, the rebuild he did was on my last boat, only had my p23 for a few months! was booked in for service with him, but he is so so booked up! i like adrian known him for many years now! top bloke!
dad is there today whilst im at work, he said around gaskets and injectors its quite salty? poss new gaskets im thinking??
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09-06-2007, 04:54 PM
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Registered User
Location: redhill
Occupation: data manager
Boat name: salamis
Boat make: cheetah (not that cat thing), Invicta Jupiter 5.0
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Sounds like the engine cooling system is leaking, and if spraying salty water over electrics that would would cause a whole bunch of problems.
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09-06-2007, 05:52 PM
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Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
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Ooh err lewis! Best thing to do is whip the old plugs out then see if she turns over. Dont sound good though mate. Aint you heard the saying that your engine always runs the best its ever run just before it goes bang!
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09-06-2007, 05:54 PM
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Yeh, usually cos somethings causing em to run a bit leaner or hotter (hotter combustion temps I mean, not necessarily hotter water temps)
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09-06-2007, 05:57 PM
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Boat name: S.B Racing
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Like a nice warm piston crown!
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09-06-2007, 08:36 PM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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Hope it aint this bad.
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10-06-2007, 08:03 PM
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thats quite impressive dude!
Is that a recent picture?
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10-06-2007, 08:12 PM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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Originally Posted by Burty
thats quite impressive dude!
Is that a recent picture?
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Happened last monday,let go at 7200 rpm, rod blew starter motor through the cowl,thankfully not my boat I just towed it in.
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11-06-2007, 10:14 AM
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Location: Coventry (but from Lee on Solent)
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7200!!!
Not suprised it let go!
That looks like a 2.4 / 2.5 to me not an EFI / XR2. Didnt think stock 2.4 / 2.5's were meant to spin at anywhere near that!
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11-06-2007, 03:51 PM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Docta
7200!!!
Not suprised it let go!
That looks like a 2.4 / 2.5 to me not an EFI / XR2. Didnt think stock 2.4 / 2.5's were meant to spin at anywhere near that!
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Engine wasn't stock,ported,balenced and exhaust chest work, Guy had run aground and plugged his water intakes.
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11-06-2007, 05:39 PM
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I see! Gutted for the fella anyway. Powerheads aint cheap as we all know.
Nice to hear you gave him a tow in though. Last thing anyone needs after their motor goes pop is to have to make the dreaded call to the RNLI.
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13-06-2007, 06:08 PM
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Registered User
Country: uk
Location: surrey
Occupation: Railway staff
Boat make: P23, P21, R20, RingRanger 25, Sabre
Engines: 225promax, xr2, EFI tuned, 6.2 mercruiser, suzuki 140 lol
Cruising area: littlehampton
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yay, Adrian to the rescue! he got it fired on sunday, was a solenoid, then causing the ECU to go into a safe like mode, which would apparently cause it run bad, like a car ECU i guess?
anyway, at least nothing major, and on a plus note, confirmed its only done around 68 ish hours and said it was a fine example!!!
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13-06-2007, 10:04 PM
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Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
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Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
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He's a top bloke hay lewis!
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14-06-2007, 10:02 PM
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Location: redhill
Occupation: data manager
Boat name: salamis
Boat make: cheetah (not that cat thing), Invicta Jupiter 5.0
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Yer when it all goes to poo he's the first bloke to go looking for.
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