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28-12-2011, 08:16 PM
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who else is coming to exmouth ?
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All going according to plan will be bringing your old boat to Teignmouth in the summer with diesel power may be we can meet up for a comparison. 
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28-12-2011, 08:44 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Devon
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who else is coming to exmouth ?[/QUOTE]
I Am !!
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29-12-2011, 11:15 PM
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#43
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C4-STORM
Country: England
Location: Portsmouth
Occupation: Company Director
Boat name: Claygate/The Jester
Boat make: Cougar Sport Racer 27/Extreme 21
Engines: Honda BF225/Mercruiser 5.0 V8
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portsmouth
Posts: 77
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Originally Posted by conor
hello, just wondering is there a phantom or ring that will out handle a 27 cougar in rough sea?
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I have a Cougar 27 with the much criticised combination Honda lump and it's pretty awesome in the chop but you need to be careful!!
I think it all depends on setup and prop the Honda midsection is too long really, but set up right it's not too bad
Don't see many bods out when it's rough!!!
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14-01-2012, 03:54 PM
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#44
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Country: On Water
Location: Out West
Boat make: Cougar 27
Engines: Mercury Promax 300X
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Location: Out West
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Originally Posted by conor
hello, just wondering is there a phantom or ring that will out handle a 27 cougar in rough sea?
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Hi Conor, Why would you ask such a question??
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14-01-2012, 04:07 PM
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Registered User
Country: Ireland
Location: Dublin
Occupation: Boatbuilder
Boat make: Hydrostream V-king, 650SS OCR ,Ring 21, Ring 18, Phantom 18.
Engines: 300Hp Mercury 2.4, 130 Yamaha, Bridgeport EFI, XR6, Merc 200.
Cruising area: Malahide, Dublin
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I think he wants to beat you bar!!!!
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14-01-2012, 06:24 PM
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Country: ireland
Boat make: ring 20
Engines: 200hp suzuki
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Originally Posted by Barwar
Hi Conor, Why would you ask such a question??
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ha ha what alan said! was wondering how long it take you to see it, no harm to gather some info!
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14-01-2012, 08:00 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
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Check out pics from new years day at Exmouth even the OCR A Class were in front of the Cougar and it was only a bit choppy !!
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14-01-2012, 08:56 PM
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jw
Country: devon
Location: exeter
Occupation: painter
Interests: boats
Cruising area: exmouth
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Originally Posted by OCRDA
Check out pics from new years day at Exmouth even the OCR A Class were in front of the Cougar and it was only a bit choppy !!
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I was amazed how well the OCR boats did new years day.
How fast do they go with a 130 yam?
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14-01-2012, 09:04 PM
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Senior Member
Country: UK
Location: Devon
Occupation: Garage Proprietor
Interests: PowerBoat Racing
Boat name: If Only
Boat make: Bernico F3 OCR, Bernico Prototype Inboard, and some Ribs
Engines: Yamaha Pro V 115
Cruising area: UK, France
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Around 60mph ! It's all about handling and average speed.
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15-01-2012, 08:43 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Coventry (but from Lee on Solent)
Occupation: Sales Director
Interests: My Boat of course
Boat make: Extreme 21
Engines: Merc V8
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Coventry (but from Lee on Solent)
Posts: 587
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Originally Posted by OCRDA
Around 60mph ! It's all about handling and average speed.
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It's also about course (and context) though isn't it! On a tight twisty course a 19 ft non-stepped lightweight boat is gonna do well compared with a narrow 27ft stepped hull - it's almost 1/3rd shorter for a start. Bigger course, choppier water and less twisting and turning, a different kettle of fish.
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15-01-2012, 09:22 AM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
Occupation: Racer and builder
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I think the comparison with a Cougar and a Phantom would have different outcomes in different conditions, I'm sure a 28 would beat the Cougar in some conditions for instance but there are no stepped Phantoms (at least not real ones) so a straight comparison is a little pointless really, as Rob has already pointed out a Phantom 19 can be quicker in a short course!
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15-01-2012, 05:59 PM
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Country: uk
Location: DEVON
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Also remember lads, first time putting a Cougar 27 with short leg together and first time turning it, so i was a liitle aware of what could happen. So maybe not pushing to hard. But as for the course, up and back two turn marks over 500 meters. I never had a chance over a 19 foot phantom ocr boat. He did very well.
I was about to take you Bob before i stopped, as the 150 set up you had realy did not work like your 130.
But every one did well.
Mark
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15-01-2012, 06:59 PM
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BananaShark Member
Country: UK
Location: Salcombe South Devon
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If it was that short it like bringing a penknife to a gun fight! You did well Mark!
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16-01-2012, 07:43 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Originally Posted by daze
Was running a trophy 4 blade prop.
Did not have any trouble with water pressure, ran very well, even in the chop.
Speed not much different from old 300xs. Just acceleration power difference.
Remember 300xs was set low to p1 rules.
All in all very happy with the set up. Mark
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Should have stuck with the 300, managed to nudge 80 with a 4 blade trophy in Norway..! but did have the benefit of being able to adjust the ride height.
Invest in an ET Lighting, it gave me another 3.5mph and much better acceleration.
Are you planning to fit a lifter? Personally I like the idea of being able to drop the the engine way down as it felt as though the rough weather abilty was severly comprimised with the engine up that high. Difficult to tell for sure as I was testing in a Fjord with no waves.
The same boat now has a 15'' leg and the engine has been tweaked to give about 380bhp and 90mph.
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