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04-05-2007, 08:08 AM
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On a roll
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
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Desperate help req 260efi
Right, symptons as follows:
Turned up at slip last weekend, went to start, turned over fine but would not fire at all, so back home - put this down to a flatish battery but when I checked it still had 70% charge in it.
So last night, down the slip had the same problem (this was after the battery had been fully charged), so disconected it re-connected it and it started first time. Had a spin around the sound all seems ok.
Then the problems started....while sking the engine just died and would not re-start, no sight of it firing at all, I could hear the fuel pump working. left it for several minutes then tried starting up still no sight of any fire, starting to panic a bit now as theres only one other boat out in the area, jacked the engine up and took the cowl off but couldnt see any wires that had become disconnect, water/fuel seperator clamp was lose but cant imagine this is the problem.
Tired starting it again and it fired into life only for it to cut out a minutes later, the went on for 10minutres until I got so p***** off with it that I managed to get a pilot boat to tow me in.....
Sorry to give chapter and verse but I'm really hoping by doing so someone can point me in the direction real quick as I was really hoping (and looking forward to) catching up and helping out with the OCR which is in Plymouth this weekend.
So far things I got to check are stators, kill switch, fuel pressure, check fuel getting to plugs, spark.......... any other suggestion quick fixes????????
Thanks in advance.
Dan
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04-05-2007, 08:24 AM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
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Did it die instantly or pitter out slowly?
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04-05-2007, 08:32 AM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
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Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
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First off you need a fully charged battery to work the ecu, much less than 12 volts ecu wont work.
Could be leaky injectors flooding engine
Reeds knackered
Faulty ecu, etc etc etc
You should take it to someone who knows what they are doing or your going to wreck engine.
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04-05-2007, 08:35 AM
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numbskull
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Location: South
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Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
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You should take it to someone who knows what they are doing
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Fookin ell! looks like you're knackered then.
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04-05-2007, 08:58 AM
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On a roll
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
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Originally Posted by scottyboy
Did it die instantly or pitter out slowly?
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Just died out instantly mate.
Who would you recomend to take it to, I dont really want to tow it half way across the country!!
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04-05-2007, 09:11 AM
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Nick Barsch?
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04-05-2007, 11:25 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Coventry (but from Lee on Solent)
Occupation: Sales Director
Interests: My Boat of course
Boat make: Extreme 21
Engines: Merc V8
Cruising area: Solent
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What about race marine www.racemarine.co.uk?
They are in Somerset so not too far from you Dan
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04-05-2007, 12:25 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: South West
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Check EFI connection to harness, make sure all leads are clean, including clamps to battery, check earth lead to EFI box, or could be your switch boxes.
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05-05-2007, 07:50 AM
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On a roll
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
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yeah, I've heard of them, has anyone on here usde them and if so are they any good???
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05-05-2007, 07:52 AM
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Registered User
Country: United kingdom
Location: West Sussex
Occupation: Grease Monkey
Interests: Makin my boat faster!
Boat name: S.B Racing
Boat make: Ocke mannerfelt canopied B23 / Zapcat
Engines: Merc 200XS Gen 2 / Tohatsu 50
Cruising area: littlehampton/Southampton
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Alot of the 2litre boys use him mate! His names steve.Top bloke!
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05-05-2007, 03:00 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
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Phone Nick Barsch Dude, I told you the other day he is in plymouth quite alot at the moment as he's working on the Class 1 boat just down the road from you.
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05-05-2007, 04:24 PM
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On a roll
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burty
Phone Nick Barsch Dude, I told you the other day he is in plymouth quite alot at the moment as he's working on the Class 1 boat just down the road from you.
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When you told me that I didnt have a problem!!! Whats his number then??????
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05-05-2007, 09:30 PM
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couldnt be a fuel pump relay sticking?
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06-05-2007, 09:50 AM
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Steve and Nick are both good, but forlocal to you Tony Hole has to be an option, tell him I sent you and he will charge you double. Or you could wander down to the pits today and ask around.
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06-05-2007, 10:11 AM
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On a roll
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kitten
Steve and Nick are both good, but forlocal to you Tony Hole has to be an option, tell him I sent you and he will charge you double. Or you could wander down to the pits today and ask around.
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Hi Kitten, yeah I've used Tony quite alot and he is good at what he does, only problem is that hes always so busy it takes ages for him to get a look at it. I will be at the pits today so might see you around.
Cheers
Dan
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06-05-2007, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
When you told me that I didnt have a problem!!! Whats his number then??????
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01872573800
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06-05-2007, 06:28 PM
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On a roll
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
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Quote:
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Thanks Mate,
I'll give em a buzz first thing on Tuesday. Gutted is the only way to describe it this weekend, all the OCR lads down my way and REALLY wanted to be out!!
Oh well sh*t happens, just wish it happend a few weeks ago!!
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06-05-2007, 06:33 PM
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Ring him now dude.
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06-05-2007, 07:15 PM
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On a roll
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Occupation: Anything in metal
Interests: Bristol Rovers, Cider & Boats
Boat name: Aqua Thunder, Badboy
Boat make: Bernico F2, Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 280efi, Merc 260efi
Cruising area: Worldwide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Plymouth
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Quote:
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Ring him now dude.
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Just did mate. Gotta call him end of next week seems a really helpful guy.
Fingers crossed its something simple!!
Feeling a bit better about it now!
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06-05-2007, 07:17 PM
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Cool, he is very helpful dude. whens he next in plymouth then?
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