Boatmad.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 13-08-2007, 07:28 PM   #1
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
engine problem help!

I need some help
i was at the boat on Sunday getting it ready and checking it over for cowes for next week
and one of the engines wont start?
the batterys are brand new and fully charge, all wires are on and none have come off. when you turn the key there is no ignition and none of the gauge needles move?
i have put a screwdriver cross the two nuts on the solenoid to start the engine that way and it is dead as a door nail not even a spark?
i have had a look at the starter motor and all looks ok

i do not have a clue whats wrong and why it wont start can anyone help
i have 7 days to get it working
the engine is a magnum 454 330 hp
__________________

gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 07:37 PM   #2
Registered User
 
Maxim Gibson's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Occupation: Marine engineer/electrician
Interests: Boat, Landy, and other toys :)
Boat name: Mad Max/Master Fiddler
Boat make: Phantom 18/Fletcher Bravo
Engines: Merc XR2
Cruising area: Solent/IOW

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Posts: 935
solenoid buggered?
__________________

__________________
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, grinning from ear to ear, overdosing on adrenaline and proclaiming ďKINNEL!! WHAT A RIDE!!Ē
Maxim Gibson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 07:43 PM   #3
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
so i dont need a teter to check over the boat to find the problem
just get a new solenoid then and it should be ok
gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 07:59 PM   #4
Registered User
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,862
Check the earth/negative connections.
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 08:03 PM   #5
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
done that,i think i did anyway
gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 08:28 PM   #6
Large member
 
Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
Boat make: a V24 and a SLOW unstable ICE Bladerunner
Engines: 2x300 promax, 320 Volvo
Cruising area: England/France & Med

Join Date: May 2005
Location: On the farm
Posts: 2,681
Get a cheap multimeter or a battery tester, and then there are a series of checks to ensure that lectrikity is getting to the right places.

Alternately - Where are you exactly?
verytricky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 08:32 PM   #7
numbskull
 
Jon Fuller's Avatar
 
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
My money is on the battery isolator switch being fecked, well, the contacts within are probably corroded/dirty. from sitting around unused.

try getting a jump lead, straight from the battery positive terminal, to the solenoid connection, but connect the battery end last. (and dissconect it first)
__________________
.

"I Agree with everything you say really!" - John Cooke to Jon Fuller - 26-01-2013
Jon Fuller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 08:47 PM   #8
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
are you aying that you are willing to come and have a look or not the boat is at hedge end
gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 09:04 PM   #9
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
I will just have to go back to the boat again and have another look, its a pain as it is 160 mile round trip for me
gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 09:36 PM   #10
Registered User
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,862
That's probably more realistic than expecting Jon to take a day off work to do a 160 mile round trip for you.
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 10:25 PM   #11
Registered User
 
TheOrs's Avatar
 
Country: England
Location: Plymouth
Boat make: Fletcher Arrowflyte
Engines: Mercury 75

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 402
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Fuller View Post
My money is on the battery isolator switch being fecked, well, the contacts within are probably corroded/dirty.
Yes, this happened to me. Electrics totally dead & despite it being up out of the way found the isolator was corroded. After cleaning it up I packed it with some Vaseline that I just happened to have lying around in the garage & it's been fine since.
TheOrs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 11:18 PM   #12
Registered User
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,862
Just to be part of the gang - I had the same too!
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 11:25 PM   #13
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
i was not asking anyone to come down to the boat or take the day off i was just talking
i will check these faults out what you have all said that it may be on wednesday or thursday and i will let you know of the outcome
so stay posted
gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 11:28 PM   #14
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
Matt do you want to start up a club
we need a name?
any one got any good ones
gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-08-2007, 11:36 PM   #15
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
I have spoken to Simon to night and he said that his mate told him what Jon
said it may very well be the ISOLATOR SWITCH
gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2007, 01:38 AM   #16
Large member
 
Country: England
Location: On the farm
Occupation: General Trouble Causer Salterns Boatyard
Interests: Official smartass
Boat name: Seahorse.org
Boat make: a V24 and a SLOW unstable ICE Bladerunner
Engines: 2x300 promax, 320 Volvo
Cruising area: England/France & Med

Join Date: May 2005
Location: On the farm
Posts: 2,681
Yes, I will come down and have a look.
verytricky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2007, 08:09 AM   #17
Registered User
 
Tony Davis's Avatar
 
Country: Job Centre
Location: In a box
Occupation: Chaos's gofer
Interests: Skiving
Boat make: Spectre 30
Engines: 2 x Promax 225
Cruising area: In the bath

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: In a box
Posts: 5,201
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt View Post
Just to be part of the gang - I had the same too!

Me too. on the slipway at Hythe, 30 minutes before the deadline for having the boat berthed at the Southampton Boat Show in 96. Luckily JF was there, and he diagnosed/fixed the problem and we made it with minutes to spare!
__________________
Chaos for Moderator.
Tony Davis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2007, 08:44 AM   #18
numbskull
 
Jon Fuller's Avatar
 
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
Quote:
Originally Posted by gingerboyz1 View Post
the engine is a magnum 454 330 hp
Bit of a contradiction there old boy.

The only big blocks named 'Magnum' that were 330hp were on Alpha drives from about 1986/1987 (the stop gap engine/drive package between the TRS and the Bravo), not the Bravo of 1987>. Yours are Bravo Drives aren't they? so you have 454 MAGNUM 365's (unless they've been altered) These replaced the 370hp TRS setup.

See you in Cowes
__________________
.

"I Agree with everything you say really!" - John Cooke to Jon Fuller - 26-01-2013
Jon Fuller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2007, 09:06 AM   #19
Registered User
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,862
Does he wear his pants on the outside of his trousers?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Davis View Post
Me too. on the slipway at Hythe, 30 minutes before the deadline for having the boat berthed at the Southampton Boat Show in 96. Luckily JF was there, and he diagnosed/fixed the problem and we made it with minutes to spare!
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-08-2007, 11:00 AM   #20
Registered User
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 52
may be i have got it wrong then? i will have a look
i am on the wrong pills
__________________

gingerboyz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×