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Old 24-02-2007, 10:59 PM   #1
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Question Evinrude 225hp Vindicator info

Hi guys,

I'm looking at a F2 waterski raceboat that's equipped with this engine, so I 'd like to know more about it. I have no modelnr at this time.

I think it's a mid or late 90's engine. A friend told me the block is a 60° V6. Don't know if it's already electronic injection or still carbs, I guess carbs.

I found on an American site that "many Vindicators have had the powerhead go due to wrist pin letting go. That's from experience nothing a 2,500 $ check won't cure."

So, can anyone share further info (a website maybe?) on Vindicators ?
Does somebody have/had the 225 version ? Do they give good power, what's the weight ? are they reliable and what about the fuel economy ?


Picture is just a Vindicator 225hp I found on the internet.
Hope you guys can help me out with this. Thx and greets !
T.
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Old 24-02-2007, 11:05 PM   #2
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The chap that owned Golden Eye on this forum had a Vindicator on the back of his boat
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Old 24-02-2007, 11:34 PM   #3
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Thx Wild Thing
PM'ed Darren. I see he runs a 200hp Vindicator on a P18...
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Old 25-02-2007, 09:48 PM   #4
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Toffy,the vindicators are 90 degree ,3,0L blocks .
Build after 1993 all the 225,s share the new style block with a different deck,and 2 extra boost ports in the intake side and flows thru the pistons,older blocks has just 1 boost port.
water jacketings are bigger,and more mods has been done by omc.
Power is day and night better than the old 3,0L before 1993.
60 degree blocks by omc are intruders or spitfire series,those are 150-175
They have an optical ignition system,and are much sleeker.

I like them a lot ,great power,weight is around 208 kg,and rev limit is 6800,or lower, if so its written on the power pack on top of the engine.
max power is at 6000 -6200 but they like to rev to 6600 easy.
I ve had a few ,and they are reliable ,only electronic components are the weak link,like timer bases ,power pack,coils,magnets into the flywheel will come loose so now and then.
Keep it feeding by an electric holley or other fuel pump at +-7 psi,and you got yourself a good insurance for a melted piston.

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Old 25-02-2007, 10:13 PM   #5
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Hi Sterling ! Thanks for that info, real usefull...
So in general this should be powerfull yet reliable engines then... sound good.
I guess the fuelfeed to the engine should be ok on the waterski raceboat I'm currently after. But just out of interest, what should be the correct fuelpressure then ?
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Hi Sterling ! Thanks for that info, real usefull...
So in general this should be powerfull yet reliable engines then... sound good.
I guess the fuelfeed to the engine should be ok on the waterski raceboat I'm currently after. But just out of interest, what should be the correct fuelpressure then ?
You mean the stock fuel press from the vro pump to the carbs ?
I don,t know ,check the manual to see,its just the holley (red electric with a adjustable fuel press regulator)is an inline pusher pump,that sucks fuel from your tank and pushes it into the vro pump with 7 psi,that works good ,if press is too high the mixture could be off,and or blowing fuel to past the needle.
Too low and your doing russian roulette with a piston (s)

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Old 25-02-2007, 11:09 PM   #7
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You mean the stock fuel press from the vro pump to the carbs ?
I don,t know ,check the manual to see,its just the holley (red electric with a adjustable fuel press regulator)is an inline pusher pump,that sucks fuel from your tank and pushes it into the vro pump with 7 psi,that works good ,if press is too high the mixture could be off,and or blowing fuel to past the needle.
Too low and your doing russian roulette with a piston (s)

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Are Vindicators by default equipped with VRO pump ?
Are Vindicators by default all carb engines ?

(I'm currently running a '92 V4 without VRO-pump. I just have an electric holley and pressure regulator that lead the fuel right to the carbs. Works fine and it means I manually mix my oil in the fueltank. I don't like these VRO pumps. When they fail, they can give you big problems, and for pure recreational use I think manual mixing is better. A friend of mine also changed the fuelsystem on his V4, by replacing his VRO pump and go to manual mixing. So, just a bit background to my question : are Vindicators equipped with VRO pump ?)

(Also, I read your first post again. I think I misunderstood your 7psi remark. I thought you meant this was a wrong value that leads for sure to a melted piston... That's why I wanted to know the correct value... Sorry
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