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14-05-2012, 08:31 PM
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heavy steering
can anyone advise me,after rebuilding the r21 over the last 3 months tried it for the first time sunday in poole boat went well was pulling 5500 rpm on laser23p but when trimmed out could hardly turn steering wheel to left i thought the seastar steering would be more neutral,has any one else had this problem comments welcome thanks nick
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14-05-2012, 08:42 PM
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heavy stearing
nope
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14-05-2012, 11:49 PM
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What engine/ Hp and what height is the propshaft set at?
Also, what Ring 21 is it? Is the engine transom mounted or on a gill bracket?
Seastar shouldnt be that tight unless your jacked to the moon or you have another issue.
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15-05-2012, 09:32 AM
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Check weather youve got a torque tab on the skeg, if the gearbox was on a twin rig it wont have which will make steering really heavy (more so when turning left)
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15-05-2012, 10:48 AM
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Steering on our ring used to get much heavier if trimmed right out (over trimmed).
That was with hydraulic and turning a chopper prop.
trimmed back in a bit it was fine.
This may be an issue if you are overtrimming resulting in a huge rooster tail but actually a loss of speed.
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15-05-2012, 06:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydrostream
What engine/ Hp and what height is the propshaft set at?
Also, what Ring 21 is it? Is the engine transom mounted or on a gill bracket?
Seastar shouldnt be that tight unless your jacked to the moon or you have another issue.
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hi thanks for your reply r21 has gill bracket and mercury200 all factory fitted from new the cavitation plate on the motor look,s about 4 to 6 inches higher than the bottem of boat. when trimmed out you can hardly turn the wheel to the left The only other thing is it has bennett trim tabs which i have set parrallel to the bottem of boat.
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15-05-2012, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Docta
Steering on our ring used to get much heavier if trimmed right out (over trimmed).
That was with hydraulic and turning a chopper prop.
trimmed back in a bit it was fine.
This may be an issue if you are overtrimming resulting in a huge rooster tail but actually a loss of speed.
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thanks for the reply i think your right as when trimmed out there was a big rooster tail,what speed did you get with chopper and what rpm would motor pull cheers nick
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15-05-2012, 06:58 PM
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I'm afraid you will have to live with it or upgrade to a sea star pro system.
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15-05-2012, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by NickGTD40
thanks for the reply i think your right as when trimmed out there was a big rooster tail,what speed did you get with chopper and what rpm would motor pull cheers nick
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Used to spin up to about 6700 /6800rpm and was good for mid 60s. That was with a worked 22 chopper. Motor was on a bracket but lifted up a hole or two. Really well behaved set up. R21c with a 200 xr2
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15-05-2012, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Burty
I'm afraid you will have to live with it or upgrade to a sea star pro system.
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i thought the only differnce between the standard steering and the pro was the helm making it more positive with less play
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15-05-2012, 08:42 PM
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heavysteering
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Originally Posted by PuppiesBalls
Check weather youve got a torque tab on the skeg, if the gearbox was on a twin rig it wont have which will make steering really heavy (more so when turning left)
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thanks for the reply i take it you mean the adjustable trim tab underneath the cavitation plate above the prop
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16-05-2012, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ash 143
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Very helpful answer!
Were all your other 39 posts as informative.
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16-05-2012, 08:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NickGTD40
i thought the only differnce between the standard steering and the pro was the helm making it more positive with less play
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afraid not, the standard helms are 1000psi and the pro is 1500psi, hoses are also different but the rear rams are interchangable
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