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01-06-2011, 03:31 PM
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Country: UK
Occupation: Designin' Stuff
Interests: Boating/4x4s/Fast Cars
Boat name: Namotu
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What time you gonna head out Paul? Might come and watch!
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01-06-2011, 03:38 PM
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Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
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From the bridge just around 6.30! I might need to call on you for a tow haha
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01-06-2011, 05:26 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
Boat make: Ring 21C
Engines: Mariner 2.5 200 V6
Cruising area: Solent
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Originally Posted by Paul E
Well the middle carb wasn't getting any fuel... The float was stuck down which I thought was odd. Turns out the little brass bit that the needle valve sits in (sorry I don't know if I'm using the correct terminology!) had wound itself out locking the valve in the closed position. All tightened up, all 3 carbs cleaned, and it's time for another run out tonight!
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Its 'needle and seat' mate, great news you've found the issue - never heard of one of those backing out - they should be really tight. Perhaps the last person to rebuild got distracted and never finished screwing it in..
Anyway - hope it squeels like a pig with a red hot poker shoved up its ar3e now
Jim
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01-06-2011, 09:48 PM
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#24
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
Boat make: Ring 21C
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Cruising area: Solent
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Well???? Does she run??
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01-06-2011, 09:50 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Well... Off the trailer it felt great in the marina, loads of low-end grunt, torque and throttle response. As soon as we were out the pierheads I floored it, it bogged really badly, struggled to plane and again only revved up to 4,500. Turned around and straight back in, back on the trailer and to the workshop, the bastard thing had backed out again. When I 'sorted' it this afternoon I only nipped it up lightly as I didn't wanna harm the brass. It's now proper proper tight so we go again tomorrow!!
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02-06-2011, 07:32 AM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
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Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Warwickshire
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Unusual for that to vibrate out again.. Good luck for today.
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02-06-2011, 08:53 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
Boat make: Ring 21C
Engines: Mariner 2.5 200 V6
Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Warwickshire
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You all sorted now Paul?
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02-06-2011, 09:30 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,460
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Nope... it's better but still won't go over 5,300 and bogs down when trying to plane. In the marina it still feels good when stabbing the throttle so I think there's still a fuel starvation issue. Gonna strip all 3 carbs again tomorrow and set the float levels properly, if there was the issue with the needle seat on the middle one then I'm guessing whoever stripped the carbs last time didn't do a great job so they might be well out. I'm learning the hard way!
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02-06-2011, 09:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
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On the plus side we've got launch and recovery down to a fine art now!
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03-06-2011, 01:33 PM
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#30
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
Boat make: Ring 21C
Engines: Mariner 2.5 200 V6
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Warwickshire
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Did you get someone to pump the primer bulb to see if it made any difference when accelerating? If you've found 800 revs you must have sorted one or some of the problem.
Still reckon you might be down on a pot.. swap the plugs dude..
Jim
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03-06-2011, 04:52 PM
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#31
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
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New plugs will be fitted this weekend. I'm also going to get new HT leads as it may be one breaking down under load? Does anyone have a service manual, going to go right through all the timing and link n sync procedures too to be sure.
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05-06-2011, 08:17 PM
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#32
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
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Paul,
I've got a Clymer service manual I can post down to you if you need it? PM me your details.
Any progress over the weekend?
Jim
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05-06-2011, 08:28 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
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That would be good Jim thanks!! I just checked the float levels and they're all bang on level with the gasket face when inverted... Fuel pump is my next target, got new plugs and leads coming, could do with the manual to go through the formal timing and link/sync procedures. Could just be a combination of lots of little problems all adding up to one bag of shit motor!
I see you've been out in lord of the rings, how does it go?
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05-06-2011, 10:14 PM
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#34
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
Boat make: Ring 21C
Engines: Mariner 2.5 200 V6
Cruising area: Solent
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Location: Warwickshire
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Paul,
Have a butchers at the attached PDF..
Jim
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05-06-2011, 10:24 PM
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
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That works thanks Jim
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11-06-2011, 04:56 PM
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#36
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Registered User
Country: Guernsey
Occupation: Postie
Interests: Heavy Heavy Metal
Boat name: Slayer II, Slayer, Pen15
Boat make: Phantom 19G-R, Bernico F2 Extreme, Ring 15
Engines: Evinrude 115HO, Yam 90
Cruising area: Channel Islands
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,460
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Changed the switchboxes - problem solved! Still gonna reset the timing and do the link n sync to get it bang on, but she's running on 6, revving over 6k (it was a bit bumpy out there so I couldn't go mental and we nearly lost the cowl twice!) and it doesn't bog down out of the hole. Well chuffed
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11-06-2011, 08:21 PM
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#37
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Warwickshire
Interests: Boats, Jetski's, Wake Boarding
Boat name: Lord of the Rings
Boat make: Ring 21C
Engines: Mariner 2.5 200 V6
Cruising area: Solent
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Warwickshire
Posts: 202
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Glad your all sorted dude, nothing beats the feeling of fixing something!
See you out there soon.
Jim
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