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17-01-2006, 06:19 PM
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Location: Wickford Essex
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P18 Towing weight
Hi, first post to the forum but been watchin and larfin from the sidelines for some time.
Lookin for a new car/4x4 but wanna make sure its got enough pullin power.
Can anyone give me some idea of the weight of my Phantom. Its a P18 but measures out at 20ft long (18exl).
If anyone has researched the towing weight of boat, trailer, full tank o fuel etc I would be grateful for the info.
Thanks
Daren
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17-01-2006, 06:23 PM
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Location: GOLDEN MILE
Boat name: LILY THE PINK AND TERMINATOR 11
Boat make: PHANTOM 21 AND 20
Engines: 2.5 EFI X 2
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Fully rigged with trailer and fuel i'd say around 800kg.
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17-01-2006, 08:33 PM
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Location: Wickford Essex
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Thanks
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17-01-2006, 09:00 PM
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Country: Essex
Location: Great Stambridge Essex
Occupation: Director Paving company
Interests: Boating/Squash
Cruising area: Essex Marina/crouch southeast coast
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Great Stambridge Essex
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Mate where do you take your boat? Havent seen you about im from rochford norm out on the crouch or launch at east beach.
Nice to see a fellow phantom owner so close !
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17-01-2006, 09:17 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
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Re: P18 Towing weight
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Originally posted by daren
Hi, first post to the forum but been watchin and larfin from the sidelines for some time.
Lookin for a new car/4x4 but wanna make sure its got enough pullin power.
Can anyone give me some idea of the weight of my Phantom. Its a P18 but measures out at 20ft long (18exl).
If anyone has researched the towing weight of boat, trailer, full tank o fuel etc I would be grateful for the info.
Thanks
Daren
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Firstly, welcome to Boatmad mate.
I have a P18 (see profile for details), I had a Sierra 2.9 4x4 as a tow barge for donkeys, but now I have a Skoda Octavia 1.8T 4x4 estate, can't tell the boat was/is behind with either car!
One point of advice here amigo, don't tow with a full load of fuel, if something goes wrong (fully loaded) it goes wrong Big Time!!! Far better to fuel-up where your 'gunna' launch.
Why the hell you got a "donkey" engine on the back ?????Get rid of it, your not doing the Fast Phantom image alot of good here! Or maybe you do fishing in a Phantom!!!
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17-01-2006, 09:37 PM
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Location: Wickford Essex
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Hi Taz, yeah its good to have another boat nearby, I work in Rochford, in the square.
Boat(s) have been stored at Benfleet for the past 2 years so always out around Canvey or up to Thorpe Bay using Ring and Fletcher as well as the phantom but there is never anyone else about so getting bored with that.
Bought (rescued) the Phantom last year, doin' some mods and minor repairs and I've been thinking about trying Crouch or Blackwater this year once I get a better motor to tow the boat.
What's the river like? how long do ya get either side of high tide?
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17-01-2006, 09:42 PM
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Re: Re: P18 Towing weight
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Originally posted by Wayne Kerr
Firstly, welcome to Boatmad mate.
I have a P18 (see profile for details), I had a Sierra 2.9 4x4 as a tow barge for donkeys, but now I have a Skoda Octavia 1.8T 4x4 estate, can't tell the boat was/is behind with either car!
One point of advice here amigo, don't tow with a full load of fuel, if something goes wrong (fully loaded) it goes wrong Big Time!!! Far better to fuel-up where your 'gunna' launch.
Why the hell you got a "donkey" engine on the back ?????Get rid of it, your not doing the Fast Phantom image alot of good here! Or maybe you do fishing in a Phantom!!!
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Not fishing, mostly just drifting back past the slipway swearing whilst my mate larfs his nuts off.
The Ermintrude came with the boat and actually its not to bad but I have not had much to gauge it against.
Lookin to meet up with a few boat madders this year to judge it's worth.
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17-01-2006, 09:45 PM
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Location: Essex
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 2.5efi
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Essex
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Join Stone Watersports Club on the Blackwater and you can launch at any state of the tide.
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17-01-2006, 09:49 PM
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Location: Wickford Essex
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dangerous
Join Stone Watersports Club on the Blackwater and you can launch at any state of the tide.
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Thanks for the tip, got any of their details?
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17-01-2006, 10:54 PM
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Location: Essex
Boat make: Phantom 21
Engines: Merc 2.5efi
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Location: Essex
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PM'd you details of who to contact.
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17-01-2006, 10:58 PM
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Location: Wickford Essex
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dangerous
PM'd you details of who to contact.
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Thanks
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18-01-2006, 12:37 AM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
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daren, i trust you know that goldeneye is a 19xl NOT an 18?
Stone is quite a decent place.... nice bunch of people except for some bald tosser with a hooky phantom!
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18-01-2006, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Captain Chaos
daren, i trust you know that goldeneye is a 19xl NOT an 18?
Stone is quite a decent place.... nice bunch of people except for some bald tosser with a hooky phantom!
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I should fit in just fine then...
Yeah the model details behind Golden Eye are a bit confused.
The picture shows it is badged as 18EXL.
And as at the mo' I pay storage fees on a 18 footer that's fine by me...
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18-01-2006, 01:27 PM
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The Doc
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your getting away with nearly 3ft then
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18-01-2006, 01:57 PM
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I know, dont tell anyone
And if I keep the boat there for 104 years it will have almost paid for itself...
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18-01-2006, 07:18 PM
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Location: Great Stambridge Essex
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Quote:
Originally posted by daren
Hi Taz, yeah its good to have another boat nearby, I work in Rochford, in the square.
Boat(s) have been stored at Benfleet for the past 2 years so always out around Canvey or up to Thorpe Bay using Ring and Fletcher as well as the phantom but there is never anyone else about so getting bored with that.
Bought (rescued) the Phantom last year, doin' some mods and minor repairs and I've been thinking about trying Crouch or Blackwater this year once I get a better motor to tow the boat.
What's the river like? how long do ya get either side of high tide?
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Fella where do you work in the square? Im getting bored with my phantom to now since silversurfer ditched his! Ive only got friends with slow boats to go out with. The crouch is pretty calm and is easy launcn norm can get in 3-4 hours before high tide and a couple after, Its free to launch down there to. If you come dwn there one day ill launch your boat for ya if your worried bout getting stuck. Give me a call one day if your out me num is 0788 7548980 or see me website
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18-01-2006, 09:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Taz
Fella where do you work in the square? Im getting bored with my phantom to now since silversurfer ditched his! Ive only got friends with slow boats to go out with. The crouch is pretty calm and is easy launcn norm can get in 3-4 hours before high tide and a couple after, Its free to launch down there to. If you come dwn there one day ill launch your boat for ya if your worried bout getting stuck. Give me a call one day if your out me num is 0788 7548980 or see me website
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Hi Taz, I work at BDA, the architects above Abbotts, although not there at the mo as on site on big job in Chelmsford.
As soon as some good (or nearly good) weather comes along we'll have to get out on the water. I'll PM you my contact details and call ya as soon as boat is ready for use.
Boats going for engine service and some mod's sometime in next few weeks and the prop has gotta be re-finished as looks like the last owner took up the tarmac on his driveway with it.
Also I wanna install a bow ballast tank or do something with the bow fuel tank so that I can move fuel/weight around - any ideas- anyone?
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