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Old 17-01-2008, 07:48 PM   #1
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p19 or p20???

Ok lads, how can you tell a Phantom 19 from a 20?...inc is a pic of a "i think" 19?...any quick help would be great ty ty ty....
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Old 17-01-2008, 07:55 PM   #2
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Looks more like a 21 by the size of the sun deck, and no engine well
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Well this is what i was thinking, but he said he's sure its a 19?...i thought there was a bit of room inside for a 19... its a very nice clean boat tho, any other ways to tell lads?
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Old 17-01-2008, 08:23 PM   #5
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The 21 has slight kick ups at the rear of the top deck, and front has a radius on the front deck as it comes down to the top / botton joint.
the 20 is flat at the back of the rear of the top deck, and has a defined corner all the way around the fore deck.
Can you not just go get a Tape and measure it?
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Old 17-01-2008, 08:31 PM   #6
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Def 21,can tell by dash. Looks like the same gel pattern on the side as my old 21. "On A Mission"
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Old 17-01-2008, 08:39 PM   #7
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Gaz, your right about the kick ups, i just bought a black p21 and that has the kick ups etc, but i cant see them on this one?...so i'm thinking its not a 21...but as some have said they seem sure it is?, as for tape and measure....my go go gadget legs cant stretch to Glasgow!

U think so Dangerous?...

any other ideas?...2 more pics.....
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Old 17-01-2008, 08:47 PM   #8
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Is it in Glasgow itself ?
If its anywhere to the east i could pop across check it out and get some photos etc for the price of the fuel.
Im across in Fife if that's anygood.
And i could even take a tape.

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Old 17-01-2008, 08:50 PM   #9
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Definitely a 21
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sure??

Gaz, your a Diamond! the boat is in a place called "Bishopton"...you know of?, and thanks so much for the kind offers but i have a fair few pics of it, just a long way to travel if it is only a 19!....



This is the rear of a p21..note the rear kick ups that Gaz said about..and if you compare the two its totally not the same.....arrgh!!
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Old 17-01-2008, 09:06 PM   #11
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Dan, its worth noting that the p19 looks NOTHING like either the 16/18 (similar), the 20/25 (similar) or the later 21/23 (again similar)
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Thanks Captain

so it could be a 19 then.....hummm....
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Old 17-01-2008, 09:23 PM   #13
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some P19's
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Old 17-01-2008, 09:24 PM   #14
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Check the HIN mate, & all will be revealed.
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Old 17-01-2008, 09:30 PM   #15
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Captain Chaos bet me to it,the 19 rear of the top deck slopes down at the rear.
Its 82 miles from here,
if i can help let me know or if anything else up this way that you see needs checked over let me know

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Captain, thanks bud! thats sorted that poss from the list!

Wayne, i would do m8 but its miles away and not getting any answer from the guys fone!..

Gazza, thanks for that, would be a real help, but i need to move fast on this one, i'm off to Devon ina bit to get a P21, and then sat i may come up to get this one....

So, it looks like a 20/21 then, deff not a 19 style is she, thanks for all your help lads, your great!
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Which one ya getting in Devon?
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Black one, needs some work tho!...but i have 2x 225's here doing nothing so..
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Old 17-01-2008, 10:01 PM   #19
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Aaaah, the one you attached as a thumbnail.

Looks a rather nice winter project and will be a rocket with twins on.

Can I ask why the black 21 is in such poor shape visually?

By the way good luck on your travels.
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Old 17-01-2008, 10:06 PM   #20
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Thats the one, yes a 12hr round trip for us, cant say im really looking forward to it but me and my girl will be leaving about 3am.

Its been a "project" for ages, and was ready to be painted, then left, then ready, then left etc etc...too sad for me to see so have to have!

on a nice tri-axle trailer too so all good, the engines need some time to fix up but thats what its all about i guess...not much doing atm so i thought why not!

thanks for the msg tho, your 21 looks gorgeous, post a pic!

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