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23-11-2006, 09:29 PM
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hello
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260 crankshaft HP is approximatly 240 propshaft HP!!!  Oh and the 2.4 200 HP normal pleasure motor peaks at 5800 but if it has the 16 amp stator and no oil injection it will spin to 6800 all day long. With the standard porting the power peaks at 5800 but it doesn't really drop off till well past 7K. Pistons are only really good for high 6's though.
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23-11-2006, 09:31 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
Occupation: boat builder /engineer/powerboat training centre
Boat make: rib/cat/mono/tri
Cruising area: i DONT CRUISE anywhere
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web site
iv seen one or two V6 mercs, both web sites are being worked on at the moment should be done soon i hope 
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23-11-2006, 09:32 PM
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hello
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Make your mind up. Is it one or two? 
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23-11-2006, 09:49 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
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Make your mind up. Is it one or two?
ok its 4962 v6 mercury engines not 4961 
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23-11-2006, 09:51 PM
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hello
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How many valves is that?
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23-11-2006, 10:00 PM
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Registered User
Country: england
Location: southampton
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How many valves is that?
an average of 357264 reed valves
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23-11-2006, 10:06 PM
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hello
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No flies on you is there
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24-11-2006, 12:50 PM
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Country: Belgium
Boat make: Bernico f1 23'
Engines: 2* 4L V8 300 BIG JOHNSON
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It was my engine 4 years back.. since then i don't think it has had any rebuilds, but when i had it, it ran great.
It is indeed a 2.4 BP 245 bhp with an offshore leg. It drank fuel like no other, but it turned the prop around like a madman with a very characteristic howl when launching it. Ran 7000+ with ease so it has seen better times by now.
I don't seem to recall that ecu was on it, though.
Anyway that cleaver prop which was on it, was prob worth more than the entire rig itself. The transom was ripping apart (hence the plate) and the bow bent a little bit more every time you took it out for a spin. But it is a lot of fun, i can promis you that. 130+ is true.
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25-11-2006, 10:15 AM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
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Unbelievable!! I just found one of the previous (Belgian) owners
I just love these boatmad-threads 
Thanks a lot mate ! 
Think I'm gonna make a trip to Germany to see this engine..., If all seems OK, gonna try to get the cleaver also 
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25-11-2006, 12:32 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Boat name: Johnny-Rude
Boat make: a few
Engines: Seagull with hi five prop
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Toffy, ever thought of a 16ft rocketship Ring
with the new Merc
rename the boat
Suicide 
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25-11-2006, 12:58 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
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Now, THAT's a cool thought ! 
But I can't risk it : I'll have serious transom problems, would need new steering, bigger fuel tank ("only" 90liter), boat is just too light for that amount of power... As I read above : the 18ft G-Craft could hardly handle it...
I have an indestructable '91 140hp Evinrude V4 now... It has probably 160hp. It runs great and is well looked after. I don't know anyone faster doing +65mph on a 16ft ring in Belgium... I've never seen a 16ft Ring with a bigger engine except for the one on boatsandoutboards with the 150hp Black Max... Mine looks quite like it...
( http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/QBL074/)
At the moment I'm waiting for more hull-pictures from the Phantom 21ft owner. I'll post them asap, probably next week...
Bye ! 
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26-11-2006, 06:50 PM
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Registered User
Location: Belgium
Interests: Boating
Boat make: Hydrostream HST
Engines: Merc 2.5 200
Cruising area: The Schelde
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Location: Belgium
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Originally Posted by Toffy
Now, THAT's a cool thought !
But I can't risk it : I'll have serious transom problems, would need new steering, bigger fuel tank ("only" 90liter), boat is just too light for that amount of power... As I read above : the 18ft G-Craft could hardly handle it...
I have an indestructable '91 140hp Evinrude V4 now... It has probably 160hp. It runs great and is well looked after. I don't know anyone faster doing +65mph on a 16ft ring in Belgium... I've never seen a 16ft Ring with a bigger engine except for the one on boatsandoutboards with the 150hp Black Max... Mine looks quite like it...
( http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/QBL074/)
At the moment I'm waiting for more hull-pictures from the Phantom 21ft owner. I'll post them asap, probably next week...
Bye ! |
Thats a nice ring... In the netherlands there was also a boy with a 16ring and 150pk.. But that motor is dead now and he sold his boat!
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26-11-2006, 07:26 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
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engine transport ?
Kind of a practical issue here : 
If I decide to buy that '89 V6 2.4 Merc (several pics above)... how will I transport this engine ?
It must 'survive' a 260km drive without a scratch !
Can I lay it horizontally in the back of a van, protecting it with all kinds of cushions ? I see no problem in transporting 2-stroke engines horizontally, but maybe I'm overlooking something ?
What are the dimensions (length!) of this engine ?
What's the weight ?
I'm looking forward to your replies. 
Thanks, T.!
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26-11-2006, 07:31 PM
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Registered User
Location: Belgium
Interests: Boating
Boat make: Hydrostream HST
Engines: Merc 2.5 200
Cruising area: The Schelde
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Location: Belgium
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toffy
Kind of a practical issue here :
If I decide to buy that '89 V6 2.4 Merc (several pics above)... how will I transport this engine ?
It must 'survive' a 260km drive without a scratch !
Can I lay it horizontally in the back of a van, protecting it with all kinds of cushions ? I see no problem in transporting 2-stroke engines horizontally, but maybe I'm overlooking something ?
What are the dimensions (length!) of this engine ?
What's the weight ?
I'm looking forward to your replies.
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Weight is around 180kg. You can transport it like you say. just horizontally and with cushions. That will be no problem at all. I cant say how heigh it is but it normaly fits in a regular "break". If necessary it takes 10 minutes to remove the lower unit... So height wont be such a problem.
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27-11-2006, 11:06 AM
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As we found out yesterday, you can get a xr2 short shaft into the back of an Audi Quattro with 3 peole in the car, But the person in the back doesnt get much room to brethe.
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27-11-2006, 12:49 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hertfordshire
Occupation: Airline Operations.
Interests: Rum. Pirates. And West Cornwall pasties.
Boat name: Any suggestions?
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: Mercury 200 Black Max
Cruising area: The Bay of 'E'
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Location: Hertfordshire
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Ten minutes to remove the lower unit? Sounds good. Do you need new gaskets, etc. when you reassemble, or is it sealed by 'O' rings or similar?
Excuse my ignorance, just curious!
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27-11-2006, 12:53 PM
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dont need gaskets or anything gearbox just buts up against the leg.
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27-11-2006, 04:59 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Hertfordshire
Occupation: Airline Operations.
Interests: Rum. Pirates. And West Cornwall pasties.
Boat name: Any suggestions?
Boat make: Ring 18
Engines: Mercury 200 Black Max
Cruising area: The Bay of 'E'
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Location: Hertfordshire
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Cool!
Got to fit the alien cowl to my one soon.
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27-11-2006, 05:05 PM
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Quote:
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Cool!
Got to fit the alien cowl to my one soon. |
if your going to take the power head off (which if fitting a different cowling pan you will need to do) then you will need gaskets for between the powerhead and leg
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27-11-2006, 05:16 PM
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Ringle@der
Country: England
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
Interests: Water Ski Racing.
Boat name: Both called ‘Irresistible’.
Boat make: Bernico F1 Twin, Monterey 265SC.
Engines: 2 x Mercury 300XS's, Yanmar 315.
Cruising area: South and east coasts. Eastbourne Marina.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Uckfield, East Sussex.
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Originally Posted by Burnett
Cool!
Got to fit the alien cowl to my one soon. |
If you are going to lift the power head then that's the time to check your mounts and steering bushes.
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