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20-11-2006, 08:14 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
Posts: 473
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Phantom 21ft - 1995 ?
Promised you guys pictures of possible project.
It's advertised as :
Phantom 21 ft - 1995
Fueltank at the front, stainless steel, only 70liter !
Light interior, all good condition
Is it a P21 ? Is it a '95 ?
T.
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20-11-2006, 08:15 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
Posts: 473
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pic 2
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20-11-2006, 08:16 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
Posts: 473
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and here's pic 3
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20-11-2006, 10:32 PM
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hello
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Its P21 shaped thats all I can say for certain!!!
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20-11-2006, 11:06 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Weston Super Mare
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and its post 87 as its the newer style deck
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20-11-2006, 11:17 PM
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hello
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,739
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and it looks like its been painted.
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21-11-2006, 12:06 AM
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The Doc
Join Date: Mar 2004
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ex cigarette & booze runner
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21-11-2006, 06:15 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
Posts: 473
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Quote:
Originally posted by Captain Chaos
ex cigarette & booze runner
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Let's see if I understood you correctly ... :
Do you mean you know this boat ? From racing ??
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21-11-2006, 06:35 PM
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Registered User
Country: England
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Occupation: Electrical gezza!
Interests: Petrolhead
Boat name: Wayne Kerr
Boat make: Phantom xl
Engines: Mercury 2.5, 200(ish)
Cruising area: Essex, Hampshire, Mediterranean
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Crayford, Kent.
Posts: 1,199
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Could be that "CC" has pickled his liver while knocking out 50 a day!
Try the Gib factor. Remember ,,,, it's a Black Boat.
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21-11-2006, 11:00 PM
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hello
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,739
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Looks purple to me?
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21-11-2006, 11:06 PM
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Registered User
Country: Scotland
Location: Kirkcudbright
Interests: Boats n Lambrettas
Boat make: Boatless
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Kirkcudbright
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wayne Kerr
Could be that "CC" has pickled his liver while knocking out 50 a day!
Try the Gib factor. Remember ,,,, it's a Black Boat.
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Monitor deficiency me thinks
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21-11-2006, 11:10 PM
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numbskull
Country: United Kingdom
Location: South
Occupation: none
Interests: none
Boat name: Leviathan
Boat make: Phantom 28
Cruising area: South Coast
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: South
Posts: 15,959
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I'd have said more of a blue!
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21-11-2006, 11:12 PM
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hello
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,739
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Yeah purply blue but not black. Metalic? Painted?
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22-11-2006, 06:23 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
Posts: 473
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don't know... I like this dark hull-color and the matching light interior... It seems a beauty on the pics...
This boat had different engines (see the pics).
What (transom)problems can I expect fitting on another engine ? Which shaftlength of engine do I need ? Or can I just mount it higher, lower or on a powerlift ?
I'd like to fit a rather old but good Merc EFI 250hp. (see the recent pic below). Could you guys advise on this idea... ?
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22-11-2006, 06:24 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
Posts: 473
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another engine pic
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22-11-2006, 06:28 PM
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Registered User
Boat make: Phantom 23
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,693
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nice bit of cheka plate stuck on the back and painted over
engine pictured looks like a 260hp 2.5efi (100 hour engine so becarefull)
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22-11-2006, 06:31 PM
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Registered User
Boat make: Phantom 23
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,693
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problems- shouldent have any,
shaft pictured is long(20") which is fine but you can fit a 15" shortshaft for lower center of gravity but you will have lots of problems and may need to cut the transom down and get new steering.
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22-11-2006, 07:33 PM
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Registered User
Country: Belgium
Location: near Ghent
Occupation: engineer
Interests: boating, wakeboarding, snowboarding, fitness
Boat name: Outlaw
Boat make: Phantom 21ft
Engines: Yamaha 200hp
Cruising area: Zele / Kanaal Gent-Terneuzen
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: near Ghent
Posts: 473
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Quote:
260hp 2.5efi (100 hour engine so becarefull)
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Wow !! Didn't know this. So I can expect rebuilt-costs ?
According to the serialnumber it's a '89 2.4L Offshore
Serial Number = 0C175455
Model Number = HPP 1924942GH
Manufacturing Year = 1989
Description = ME – 2,4L OFF-RH
Owner says it runs great, open exhaust brings it to about 270hp. Never had problems, starts right away, compression 125lbs all 6 cil. Owners manual says new engine has 140lbs....
Is this engine worth a 350km drive and buy ?
Is '89 engine worth to rebuilt ?
Looking forward to reactions on this one...
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22-11-2006, 08:17 PM
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Registered User
Country: UK
Location: Weston Super Mare
Occupation: Electrical Engineer
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Weston Super Mare
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yeah thats a 2.4 EFI Bridge port motor but i would have thought more like 240hp not 270
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22-11-2006, 08:42 PM
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Registered User
Boat make: Phantom 23
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,693
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when changing from standard to offshore the hp gain is 4-6 hp.
As burty said the 2.4 carb is 240 hp but the efi is 260 hp,
the compression is 20psi lower than new so it will be less than the "as new 260hp" but you could skim the heads to bring the compression back up .
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