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Old 15-06-2013, 02:39 PM   #1
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Ring 20 towing weight

Just been to pick some trailer parts up and have been told if the boat and engine weigh over 750 kg the trailer will need to have breaks ? Any ideas how much my 1990 ring with merc 200hp weighs
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Old 15-06-2013, 04:09 PM   #2
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I don't seem to remember it would weigh over 750 Kg.
My Fletcher 199 is about 490 kg + engine about 180(+) and I would guess a Ring is a lighter boat, than a Fletcher 199??
But shouldn't you also consider the weight of the trailer in the 'total-weight'?

My boat is on a Roller-coaster 5 trailer (1300 Kg) from Indespension and it is braked, even though the set (boat/engine) don't weigh over 700 Kg.

Perhaps someone can pitch in with 'data'??
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Old 15-06-2013, 04:30 PM   #3
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The guy said just the boat and engine need to be under 750kg
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Old 15-06-2013, 05:25 PM   #4
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Maximum 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less.
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It will weigh over 750kg when you take the trailer into account so yes it needs to be braked. (to be legal)
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Old 16-06-2013, 07:48 AM   #6
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So on a twin axle trailer have both axles got to be braked ?
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Old 16-06-2013, 10:48 AM   #7
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Yes.

There is a helpful thread on towing here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1100356
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Old 16-06-2013, 06:52 PM   #8
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That's a great help. Cheers
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Yeah if whole weight of towing is more than 750 kgs then you should have brakes. However brakes always rust up so a cable to the axles to look like you have brakes should do the trick.
I would think most boat trailers the brakes don't work!
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Yeah if whole weight of towing is more than 750 kgs then you should have brakes. However brakes always rust up so a cable to the axles to look like you have brakes should do the trick.
I would think most boat trailers the brakes don't work!
Or if you wanted to be safe and legal, and you want to be able to stop in an emergency you could actually have working brakes. I assume the comment above is tongue in cheek?
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I think he's stating fact. On the road I bet a great majority of boat trailers have defective brakes. Quick scan through ebay shows this on many auctions. Small trailerable boats = usually 'cheap' = lack of maintenance.
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That's what I was doing, just stating a fact that a majority of boats on trailers have defective brakes, and I would think quite a lot including mine have the brake pads taken out to stop them seizing after they have been sat on the drive a week or 2 they tend to take a good nudge to get brake free. So best not to have any. Also depends on your towing vehicle I guess if your towing with a Landy or fiesta things will be different.
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Old 24-06-2013, 09:05 PM   #13
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I'm towing with a transit van I've had to buy a new hitch which is bracked due to the length of the box on the trailer the back hubs are new ish and already bracked but no cables my trailer is twin axles so I'm getting new front hubs to match the bk and new cables
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I towed my r18. Twin axel. Did have brakes but reMoved.
My r21 was on a single axel yank trailer. Hydraulic breaks. Work great but not legal.
My liberator, yank trailer. 2.5 ton plus. No breaks.

The extreme 24 is on a uk legal trailer. Legal as braked too. Brakes are about as good as a chocolate t cup!

If it was my boat and a ring 20, I wouldn't worry about brakes, especially behind a tranny.
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Old 26-06-2013, 12:13 PM   #15
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I'm travelling 86 miles home to slipway ?
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i take it the ring is atleast 19ft with a 200hp so will be over weight for a non braked trailer.
anything over about 15ft is going to be heavier than you might think.
you have to think about whats in the boat as well as the engine.
controls,fuel tank,battery, and all the other bits n bobs.
everything counts.
ive had people say mine aint 750, then when put on scales is 1200 plus !!!!!
a decent trailer for a 19ft boat will be around 400 kilo on its own, more if twin axles.
i have a snipe roller coaster single axle unbraked trailer.
on the plate it says maximum 750 gross weight then says maximum carry capacity 600kg.
no chance in hell of this trailer only weighing 100 kilo.
maybe 100 without the axle, but not a chance of it being just 100 kilo's.
best to put the rig on a weighbridge and know for sure what you have,and do it with the most stuff youl normally carry or your kidding yourself and could get the lot confiscated if you get a snotty copper pull you over !!!!!!!


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