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Old 18-05-2006, 09:11 PM   #1
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Rotting trailer? Anodes?

So if anodes stop your motor rotting away, why cant you fit them to the backplates of your trailer to stop the bloddy brakes rotting away?

Am i missing something?

I expect so.....just I get so pissed off replacing trailer brakes or having them seize up.

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Old 18-05-2006, 09:38 PM   #2
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Anodes wont stop it rusting it will meerly reduce it and anyway they only work in the water.
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Old 18-05-2006, 10:40 PM   #3
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Yer reckon JBD? So it's not worth galvanising anything that doesn't go into water? And, some cars have anodes too.

Anyway, lather water resistant grease all over the brakes, inside and out.
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Old 19-05-2006, 01:10 PM   #4
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[B]Yer reckon JBD? /B]
Yup!!!

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Old 24-09-2006, 11:23 PM   #5
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Trailers! Bloody things.

My boat arrived today at the end of a 200 mile trip, and by the time we got it to the marina parking bay the back wheels were hanging off - literally. We jacked it up, pulled the wheels off and parked it with just the front pair and the rear up on wooden blocks.

Anyone know about these things? They seem to have 10" wheels a bit like a Mini, 4 stud fixings and a tapered shaft sticking out of the Indespension unit.

Is it much of a job to swap them, or would I be better off getting some local trailer-smiths to come out and sort it?
I'll also need the rollers on the centre rail replacing before too long. I guess the way to do that is to have the boatyard crane it onto a set of blocks so that I can get to work on the trailer. Either that, or just give up on the bastard, have them crane it onto a new one, then cut the old one up with an angle grinder and get rid of it at the tip!
Thing is, the actual structure is plenty solid, if a little scabby in parts. It's a 4 wheel one, with the braking mechanism removed. I'm assured it's perfectly fine for an 18 footer.

Any thoughts or advice genlemen?
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Old 25-09-2006, 09:47 AM   #6
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its just your wheel bearings given up dude. you need to check to make sure where they have seized it hasnt damaged your hubs or stub axles. you'd also better check the other 2 bearings as well

It might be worth considering new axles though as they will cost you £600 but come with all bearings, brakes, cables etc.

a set of bearings will be around the £80 to £100 but as i said check your hubs / stubs first
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Old 25-09-2006, 06:56 PM   #7
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Thanks Burty.

The bearings haven't so much seized as just collapsed and fallen out of the front of the wheels! I literally just pulled one wheel off it and removed the other with the nuts so I could back it into the parking bay at the marina.
A far as I can tell, the stub axles look okay. They're straight and clean looking anyway.

Replacing the bearings looks like a simple enough job, so I'll do that ASAP. I'll do all four as you suggest, just to be on the safe side.
Seems to me that you just pop off the centre cap, pull the split-pin, release the castellated nut then get the puller on to hoik the old ones out. Refitting, as Haynes say 'Is a reversal of removal' (except for the puller, obvously!)

On the subject of trailers, this one is a big solid looking bugger, made of rectangular box-section steel. At the end of each beam is a 'box' with the stub axle sticking out and a 10" wheel on the end. It was at some point braked, but this has now been removed, so it's just an unbraked trailer, but with four wheels.

Is this legal? Is it safe??

I've never had anything on a trailer before, so it's all new to me.

Thanks for the advice though. Always appreciated.
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Old 25-09-2006, 07:27 PM   #8
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i believe anything over 750kgs should be braked but i know loads of people who may not worry about it
as for reassembling dont do the castle nuts up tight they are there to be loose enough for the bearings to feel right and the split pins keep them on
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Old 25-09-2006, 08:35 PM   #9
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Does it not depend on the vehicle as to how much it can tow braked and unbraked?
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Old 25-09-2006, 09:39 PM   #10
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Dont think so - Unbraked is maximum 750kg or half the weight of the tow car (Whichever is lowest)


http://www.practicalcaravan.com/legal/index.html
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Old 25-09-2006, 10:36 PM   #11
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Interesting stuff. Thanks all, and especially to NigelK for the linky. I think I'll drop in to my local trailer specialists on my next day off and have a chat.

I'm sure this has been asked many times before, but what does a Ring 18 with a Mercury Black Max 200 weigh, approximately?

I've got an old 3 litre Mercedes E class which I was planning to pull it with. Shouldn't be a problem as far as I can tell.
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i recon on the trailer with fuel etc will be around the 1000 to 1100kgs
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Yep 750 kilos is the max unbraked and that includes the weight of the trailer.
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Old 26-09-2006, 08:11 PM   #14
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Hmm. Braked it is then. Going to pop over to my local trailer experts tomorrow and see if they can sort it out for me with brakes, new hubs, etc. Once that's done I can hammerite it repeatedly and we'll be sorted. Probably for about half the cost of a new one hopefully. We'll see.

Just got to persuade my marina guys to crane it onto a set of stands or a spare trailer for me in the meantime.

Quite daunted really, as this'll be the first time that I've towed anything. Bet a Ring/Mercury setup will be extremely noticeable from behind the wheel! Still, people tow boats with smaller cars than mine, so I'm not too worried.
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dude, prolly cheaper to buy 2 axles rather than all the parts to make yours braked with new bearings etc
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You may well be right Burty.

Off to the marina in a little while to get all the serial numbers, etc. to complete my insurance cover.
I'll ask their guys if they have any good local trailer specialists that they recommend, then go and have a chat with them.
There's also an empty rollercoaster trailer parked in there that's been there as long as I can remember. May even be for sale - I'll find out.

Once I've got it back to driveable again I can finally start on the boat!
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you will need 3 measurements
overall hub to hub
mounting holes (trailer width)
and PCD
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i recon on the trailer with fuel etc will be around the 1000 to 1100kgs
What ,,,, my old P16 (on trailer) weighed in at 650kgs with a Merc V6!
2ft & Ring construction can't add 400 odd kgs !!!!
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Old 28-09-2006, 07:49 AM   #19
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Must admit I did wonder about that myself. My old motorbike, for example was 1000cc and weighed in at 200kgs. Seemed odd how a big fibreglass tub would weigh five times that, but then I don't know.

Tried emailing Ring but I just get the server bouncing them back. Will try calling today and see if they can tell me where the serial number is. I poked around all over the place for it yesterday and I couldn't find it anywhere. Nothing inside the transom, nothing glassed in under the deck.
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From memory I think it's found behind the rear seat backrest.
You may have to use a mirror !!!!!
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