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09-08-2010, 03:59 PM
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Water intakes
Hi, when fitting "through hull" water intakes, for cooling engines, is there anywhere best suited to fitting these? I would like to keep them as far towards the stern as possible, if that´s ok and good practice.
Thanks
Pete
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11-08-2010, 09:33 PM
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Any ideas guys ???
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12-08-2010, 03:16 PM
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102 views and nobody has any suggestions? Can anyone suggest another web site where the people might know about this subject.
Thanks
Pete
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12-08-2010, 04:22 PM
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I only just noticed this.
My first boat had inboard jag engine in it, and if i remember rightly the water pick up was as far aft and as low as possible obviously so it is submerged, but the intake grill was facing aft too, i think as not to force more water in than the engine or pump can handle when at high speed.
There was a notch in the hull which the intake fitted into so was flush with the hull, that way it cant get knocked off and water poor in. Hope this helps.
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12-08-2010, 04:29 PM
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Thank You Carl, for taking the time to answer. Points taken. I am adding intakes for a re power. Legs don´t have water pickups. I am just concerned that I remember hearing, airiated water and propelors don´t mix well.
I´m sure there´s many "in the know" on here but they must have missed this thread.
Thanks again
Pete
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12-08-2010, 07:03 PM
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Hi Pete,
you could have some nice s/s ones made up and have them on the transom???
otherwise some off the shelf brass through hull ones, as close to the CL as poss i would think. Sea cocks and strainers aswell?????
I have got 2 brand new intakes and sea cocks here ..........but there off an 80footer so probaly a bit of an over kill!!!!!!!
I must get down to look at the boat sometime.............!
Speak soon
Matt
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13-08-2010, 08:08 AM
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Cyco has made us some transom mounted pickups for the new boat if you want transom mounted ones?
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13-08-2010, 09:37 AM
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Thanks Matt, yes, you´ll have to come and have a peek. Going to UK Next Thursday, to collect engines. Will be back on 25th. What it "The CL"?
Thanks cookee, I have bought stainless through hull fittings, sea cocks and water strainers, all being delivered to a uk address, as we speak. Thanks for the idea though. Just wanted to be sure of the best possition, to mount them.
Pete
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13-08-2010, 09:15 PM
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I guess CL is centre line? Thinking along these lines, this should keep any disturbance further inboard than the props? Is any disturbance from the intakes a problem?
I was thinking of putting them through the hull, about 8" in from the transom and wide enough apart,, so as not to obstruct each other, inside the engine bay. I wondered if offsetting them would also be a problem, one 8" from transom and the other 12" from transom, allowing them to be closer to the centre line.
I would really appreciate any further advice on this. I know there are a lot of you guys who know about this type of instalation, please offer some advice.
Pete
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14-08-2010, 01:57 AM
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14-08-2010, 05:21 PM
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Thanks H20 but I´ve already bought the through hull fittings and everything to go with them.
Pete
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