2014 races

alice · 15-01-2014, 06:39 PM

is there an official list out of all 2014 races

OCRDA · 15-01-2014, 07:26 PM

RYA Calendar still very provisional !! OCRDA have a confirmed calendar on website www.ocrda.com and 15+ boats confirmed looking like a good season all are welcome.
PM or call if you, or anyone else needs more info.

Captain Chaos · 15-01-2014, 07:38 PM

how can you confirm yours if the rya haven't theirs?

gar163y · 15-01-2014, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OCRDA

RYA Calendar still very provisional !! OCRDA have a confirmed calendar on website www.ocrda.com and 15+ boats confirmed looking like a good season all are welcome.
PM or call if you, or anyone else needs more info.

Not coming to the Diamond Race this year then Bob?

motorvator · 15-01-2014, 09:46 PM

Have any rules to go with that calendar?

OCRDA · 15-01-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

how can you confirm yours if the rya haven't theirs?

These are some of the confirmed events, along with several others for P1, TC, Marathon Etc. Just that RYA have not finalised the Calendar Yet.
Also not on ours is 1-3Aug Round 3 Nations Championship.

OCRDA · 15-01-2014, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by motorvator

Have any rules to go with that calendar?

Yes all RYA National rounds for qualifying Classes, Zapcat, Class 3, OCR, V24 and any others that want to Race rather than just talk about it !!

Hydrostream · 15-01-2014, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by motorvator

Have any rules to go with that calendar?

PB1, you can download it on RYA website. What you going to be racing?

OCRDA · 15-01-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gar163y

Not coming to the Diamond Race this year then Bob?

Sadly not ! When is it ?

gar163y · 15-01-2014, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OCRDA

Sadly not ! When is it ?

The Belgian Diamond Race is 29 June.
There is the Geelse Kanaalfeesten the following weekend 5-6 July if you feel the need to top up on Duty Free's.

Not sure if any Aussies or Yanks will be coming this year.

motorvator · 15-01-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrostream

PB1, you can download it on RYA website. What you going to be racing?

Do you mean the 2013 PB1?

The original poster asked a question and deserves a far more succint but precise answer than yourself or Bob has given despite knowing the answer.

And in response to what I'm racing, I'm far too old for all that, I'm just the banker.

Hydrostream · 16-01-2014, 01:29 AM

I didnt answer, I just directed you to where you might find some rules even if they are 2 weeks out of date.

motorvator · 16-01-2014, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrostream

I didnt answer, I just directed you to where you might find some rules even if they are 2 weeks out of date.

Ah I see, so as a boat builder would you recommend the original poster should build a raceboat to compete based on PB1 2013?

Hydrostream · 16-01-2014, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by motorvator

Ah I see, so as a boat builder would you recommend the original poster should build a raceboat to compete based on PB1 2013?

Stop now will you! The Original poster asked about race dates. Then you came along asking about rules! And at this time I would hope anyone considering building a race boat for this season has a fair idea what they are building. Or should we request the 2015 and 2016 rules too?
Or better yet, build whatever you like and just go out and have some fun!

Renegade · 16-01-2014, 08:03 AM

I have no dog in this fight, but I do agree the finalised rule should be published by now and with regards to building, these guidelines should be set in stone last year. For 2015 and 16? Yes have them now and maybe you got half a chance of some stability. Instead of looking like.headless chickens.

OCRDA · 16-01-2014, 09:25 AM

Anyone interested in "Racing" please get in touch either by email ocrda@btconnect.com or Call 07970 728573

Only around 16 weeks till first race of 2014 !!

motorvator · 16-01-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrostream

Stop now will you! The Original poster asked about race dates. Then you came along asking about rules! And at this time I would hope anyone considering building a race boat for this season has a fair idea what they are building. Or should we request the 2015 and 2016 rules too?
Or better yet, build whatever you like and just go out and have some fun!

Look you're fully aware that there has been a last minute fundamental class change proposal and to portray to the readers of Boatmad that that bit is all sorted and by inference it is the RYA holding things up is verging on dishonesty.

I am neither one side of the fence or the other but people would like to know if 'worked' engines are to become a national class.

Is there a good reason to be clandestine about it all?

As Paul says stability is key to anyone thinking of putting a raceboat together.

Captain Chaos · 16-01-2014, 10:00 AM

Worked engines you say.

That should produce some interesting results on direct injection epa type motors. Mind you technology & tweaking does move along quickly... It's only been 17 years since omc gave us the first run of ficht v4/v6s making all the carbed stuff look like right old smokers!

Hydrostream · 16-01-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by motorvator

Look you're fully aware that there has been a last minute fundamental class change proposal and to portray to the readers of Boatmad that that bit is all sorted and by inference it is the RYA holding things up is verging on dishonesty.

I am neither one side of the fence or the other but people would like to know if 'worked' engines are to become a national class.

Is there a good reason to be clandestine about it all?

As Paul says stability is key to anyone thinking of putting a raceboat together.

I think you'll find I didnt infere anything at all. Not sure why you have singled me out, manipulating what Ive said as a way of airing your grievances. I really am the last person to try and debate politics or rules with. Because I really dont care all that much about it!
What I do care about is getting on the water in my boat in whatever way I can, and with as many other like minded people as we can get on the start line.
And seeing as you have already said you're not into racing, perhaps you would like to come along and help out at some of the races. Im sure some of the clubs would appreciate the help, or an extra official, as you seem to have a fair grasp of the rules.
Maybe we'll see you at some of the races in 2014.
Alan

motorvator · 16-01-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrostream

I think you'll find I didnt infere anything at all. Not sure why you have singled me out, manipulating what Ive said as a way of airing your grievances. I really am the last person to try and debate politics or rules with. Because I really dont care all that much about it!
What I do care about is getting on the water in my boat in whatever way I can, and with as many other like minded people as we can get on the start line.
And seeing as you have already said you're not into racing, perhaps you would like to come along and help out at some of the races. Im sure some of the clubs would appreciate the help, or an extra official, as you seem to have a fair grasp of the rules.
Maybe we'll see you at some of the races in 2014.
Alan

Alan, apologies if you think it is a personal dig. Far from it. And grievances are not something I carry, never have, life is too short.

Those that know me know I do my bit quietly but I generally prefer to keep a low profile as it is my firm belief that competition is for those behind a wheel not organisers. And I'll leave the behind the wheel bit for someone much younger than I that has the same passion I had many years ago. It endears me that he looks to me for guidance.

But this is not about us as individuals. We collectively come from the same angle of wanting to see offshore revived I just totally disagree with how individuals attempt to make changes that affect the sport rather than through a consensus of opinion. And then portray it as ratified when it clearly is not.

The rules and classes are fundamental to calling anything a race, an individual has an expectation to know before a season, and should be more, that what he is about to embark upon is fairly competitive. It affects his decision making process.

I have just this week been through that mill and parted with a substantial amount of money to do just that for my son, very well researched and here we are yet again with someone trying to move the goalposts around.

This, I would suggest is not they way to get the sport back on it's feet so all I am asking is for is clarity and more so honesty albeit after the event of parting with hard earned cash.

So I'll ask the question in more succint terms.

Do we have a set of rules that lays out what the 'NRC' (OCR?) calendar is racing for, what the class structure is, are 'worked' engines allowed, how are points awarded and do they count toward a national championship?