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Old 09-06-2009, 11:21 AM   #121
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I brought my big Nikon and took various photos throughout the day. Will upload them later, some great shots of all the teams. Plus the awards in the afternoon.

Will post some on here, but as there about 500, PM your boat number and will put a selection together for each team of the best ones.

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Old 09-06-2009, 11:22 AM   #122
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:55 AM   #123
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The kink in the strait from Boscombe Pier to Bournemouth pier should have been almost a straight but the bouy had drifted 1 cable south,


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Old 09-06-2009, 12:05 PM   #124
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Dont care how fast it went, still having pleasant recurring dreams of the noise it made as it came past us - it was like listening to every exhaust valve open and shut in slow motion.... awesome!
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:05 PM   #125
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The last two posts are a bit of an old chesnut,but consider this trivia.

`Thuraya`, 41` CUV ,1600hp ,P1 ,9 laps over an hour race averages 72.85mph.(Italian GP 2004)

I could get all techical being as I have the boats weights to hand,but 300 extra horsepower on a larger boat basically equates to circa 5mph extra speed over `Cinzano`,a 38` CUV with 1300hp.

So round the cans a la P1,`Cinzano` would have a potential of 67.85mph.(56.9mph in Cancer race) based on the above.
I had a long chat to Marcus in the RMYC after the race and basically asked him what was going on, It was obvious that he wasn't flat out in the early laps. You could hear that let alone see it. It all boils down the fact that he had very little experience of the boat (two test runs) and certainly had never raced before; his last experience in the RB08 resulted in his boat sinking on the first leg in Lyme Bay so on Sunday he was on a learning curve. I was on the time keeper’s boat and watched him gradually beat his times on each lap and on the last lap he put the hammer down which was obvious from the rooster tail. He also had 200 kilos of extra fuel on board. They don’t have that in P1.

We all had to learn at some time and Marcus is learning. He is a great supporter of the sport and will eventually get that boat really going, have no doubts about that. Just give him time.
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:36 PM   #126
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We all had to learn at some time and Marcus is learning. He is a great supporter of the sport and will eventually get that boat really going, have no doubts about that. Just give him time.
Yes it was really great he chose to run in the Charity event

It is possible the boat runs 82-85mph as I noticed in the CTC the boat ran with Silverline from P1 Supersport which one must assume has a mid 80's+ mph ability

On the Cinzano new V old front I had mentioned in a thread before that I felt with similar HP around 84 ish the old Cinzano ran around 88mph and into the 90's with the 2 valve Lambo's with more horses
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:38 PM   #127
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Thanks Mike for the inside story.I knew it wasn`t the sea anchor all along.I thought at one stage we were going to get 58 posts worth of debate on it.I agree with`cfun` we should be thankful these guys are putting on a show for us.
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:40 PM   #128
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Average Speeds

It has been mentioned to me that I have posted incorrect average speeds. Perhaps Annie can confirm ?
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Yes it was really great he chose to run in the Charity event

It is possible the boat runs 82-85mph as I noticed in the CTC the boat ran with Silverline from P1 Supersport which one must assume has a mid 80's+ mph ability

On the Cinzano new V old front I had mentioned in a thread before that I felt with similar HP around 84 ish the old Cinzano ran around 88mph and into the 90's with the 2 valve Lambo's with more horses
I have just been reminded that it is well known that the CUV's have a maximum design speed of 88-90mph. After that they either get very dangerous or just very fidgty, but you really wouldn't want to find out. Apprently Alex Foster has a story to tell about that having been spat out of a CUV at too high a speed off the Old Harry Rocks. So the story goes.
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Old 09-06-2009, 01:09 PM   #130
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1, B28 B Project 51.34mins Avg speed 67.70mph

2, V3 It Wasn't Us 51.38mins Avg speed 67.61mph

3, 25 Team 25 Racing 52.23mins Avg speed 66.64mph (INCLUDING THE STOP)

4, 558 Cinzano 53.20mins Avg speed 65.46mph

5, V56 S B Racing 53.28mins Avg speed 65.29mph


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Old 09-06-2009, 01:19 PM   #131
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Cheers ML that is interesting guess back in the 70's when first designed 90mph ish was pretty dam fast and still is not to shabby today it just goes to show the performance envelop can always be stretched a bit as Follett cars the 41' version ( was it posted I forget what happened with the 38' did it just get stretched to 41' ) anyhow Follett with the 2x 800hp Isotta's ran possibly a best of 94-95mph and the P1 CUV running the 4 valve Lambo's must have got close to the 100mph mark
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Old 09-06-2009, 01:48 PM   #132
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:03 PM   #133
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the speeds quoted are knots not mph .the first three are b28,67.70mph ,v3,67.61mph. 25, 66.64mph
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:21 PM   #135
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:26 PM   #136
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Full results here.......Well over £3,000 raised for Cancer Research - great job, everyone of you!!! Thank you.
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Although we couldnt get our boat ready in time. Myself and Tom managed to raise £375 also, so you can add that to the total.
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:37 PM   #139
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Hello everybody,
this is my first ever post on a forum, let alone this highly special one.
Not knowing to speed up Cinzano (yet) I at least found my way in.

Let me first thank all of you for the warm welcome Team Cinzano and its new sponsor (well even owner) and throttleman I happen to be.
Being foreign, worse, even German, I had a very good experience on this first triangle Powerboat race in my life.

My neighbour on the charity evening event told me of her experience that this will change, because only if after the race nobody smiles at you, then you know you won it.
As she is a mid 20 girl from Pompey and racing Thundercats, it is some interesting information.

Back to Cinzano.
As Mike informed you already, we had bunkered about 300 gallons, when we left the Hamble Gas station on Saturday. And even Ilmores do not drink that fast to reduce this significantly in a 45min. cruise to Poole.

Then we did not have time for one or two test laps before the race, because although we left the Club early on Sunday neither Tim, nor Eric obviously not me, found the marks and buoys quick enough. (Most were just being shipped out 15min. before the Race)

Therefore I decided to go for a slow start and a resonably matching boat to follow to for the beginning of the race.
I opted for 'The Bandit'.
Well, the first round we did on 09.4xmin. So there we lost our first Minute! The secound round was much better, but then 'The Bandit' caused us a troublesome turn, just where it has the least space!
The next three rounds were within secounds of each other, but do not forget the heavy rain, that kept visibility poor and that leads us to the next trouble: fishing pods.
They were always around, when you didnot wanted them. At least on two turning points they were right in our way of the strategycally preplanned longer but faster turning circles we were supposed to have done.

That meant we were forced to trimm in further to keep sudden steering momentum. So revs were sometimes down below 4.000 whereas we have seen more than 65 knots on the GPS on the long runs.
The Dogleg along the coast was not helpful either.
Did I mention that we decided not to drown the occasional close encountering smaller craft comming off the inner course circle?
Those we could easily have braked out at the varios corners coming in at our higher speed, if we had kept revs and trimm up to the very edge.
The result would have been to wash their boats with our rooster.
Would not have caused that much applause on this Forum?!

So there was much more potential for the boat and I have to thank Tim and Eric to have that much patience with my novice learning phase and let me do things less optimal yet.

I was satisfied for the outcome, even being drop dead slow compared to the historic data of former events.
Hope most questions left are answered hereby!

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Old 09-06-2009, 02:40 PM   #140
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Bit of a clerical error there my old `Ciao`.That was a waste of a morning debating that.I always said those Phantoms weren`t up to much! As someone once said `Taxi`.
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